spwolf

actually, previews of GS F-Sport said it handled better than IS-F already and it was best handling Lexus sedan ever. Some already commented how it will be better than 5 series which grew big, fat and unresponsive.

But yes... internet fans wont ever like it. Who cares?

When FT-86 was introduced a lot of people commented on Autoblog how it is probably Camry based and boring.

;-)

Blackraven

spwolf, please comment on my earlier post.

Btw, my prediction is that I still believe Panasonic Nanoe will be only for JDM models (i.e. those sold in Japan only).

Though I would like to be proven wrong on that

lostnspace

Along with performance I'm really curious about the functionality of the mouse feature.

With all the added benefits of downloading apps, Bing search, and a new UI, will all this be regulated to use when the car isn't in motion? Or will the driver or at least the passenger be able to use the nav/info system.

I really hope Lexus gives a little more functionality to driver with the new system or at least adds more intuitive voice commands.

On the current Nav system I do like the Lexus Enform though, finding places through an app or from my computer and sending it to my car is nice feature. I also like calling in and asking for different locations to be added to my route or finding the nearest (whatever it is I'm looking for). When my car was totaled I was very appreciative of being called immediately and asking if I needed medical assistance through the Safety Connect.

chuckb

they really should have had a black 2013 GS460(or 500) sitting next to that new 350 at pebble beach.

now word is there will be no V8 and the GS-f will be probably be a hybrid or a V10... I really hate the sound of this.

so the logical V8 is out and it's either a hybrid or a V10. gee I wonder what it will be?

I think it's a pretty crappy milestone in GS history if this is the end of a V8 GS.

jtrue28

I find it hard to believe they're ditching the V8 altogether. Do we think they're just waiting (a la 2007) for the new LS4x0 or LS500 to come out with the upgraded V8 engine?

Gojirra99

That might be a possibility, as someone has mentioned in another thread ..., just so the 4GS will not get a better V8 engine than the current LS460 ......

But the top flagship is really the LS600hL with the 5.0 V8, so I am not sure if that make sense

*Batman*

Lexus is annoying because they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

forget about numbers, i can care less about them. i care when i sit in the car. it looks promising so far. i think i said that before.

well i never look into the numbers, but i believe someone said the 4gs is technically 0.2" longer or so? plus, your logic is wrong. even if the car has same overall length and same wheelbase, that doesn't mean the location of the wheel base is the same. just for the sake of argument anyway.

and i never said the 4gs has more rear overhang than the 3gs. i said it looks to have bigger overhang than other cars like the e class

LB23

Kinda boring, bland, with no personality.
Oh well.

KevinGS

I'm likely in the minority, but I really do miss the cleanliness of the concept's rear. When I first saw it, it was love at first sight. But I was afraid it was just too clean and generic for the masses, though I personally thought it was the best part of the concept. Badgeless too, I just loved it. The lights look so much better on the concept, and I like the smaller exhaust opennings too...and I like the lower valence a lot better on the concept. Yes, the overall concept's rear looks somewhat bulky, but it's bulk with purpose and artistry.

Also, I love how in the concept's rear, there's the 2 design lines that flow outward down the whole rear on each side, matching the flow of the front end (like so / \ ). It's great that the front and rear had similar design themes. The actual 4GS rear loses that completely, and for me, that lost all the character of the rear of the car. Here's hoping future sport models have slightly different rear bumpers, but they'll likely never bring those 2 design lines back, and that's really a shame.

The translated 4GS rear is just overwrought...too, maybe it's those additional red safety lights on the lower part of the bumper, and maybe it's the different brake light design as well. I don't know, it just misses the mark. Come on, aftermarket companies, I will need you to clean that rear up for me.

Other than that, I am pleased with Lexus' effort. This will likely be my next Lexus, and I will likely keep it for hundreds of thousands of miles.

spwolf

i dont remember where I saw it, but it was some official lexus gs 350 site in english... and it had info on nano-e. I cant find it anymore. It was definitively not an JDM model.

spwolf

Ah, got it... it is Lexus EU:

LB23

I really really like how they kept the exterior dimensions and the curb weight in check.

But also increased the interior space, with more head, leg and knee room, and with a 25% bigger trunk.

That is efficient packaging indeed.

LB23

Where are the eyebrows?

LB23

Mmmmmmmmmm that sounds........ aggresive!