Official GS-F discussion
09-01-11, 10:21 AM
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09-01-11, 12:33 PM
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WoW..!! I didn't know they had 19" wheels back in 2006....
2013 Lexus GS350 - OEM Wheel Options
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09-06-11, 06:53 AM
#230
Article
Just the Facts:
Lexus is still considering a high-performance GS F model.
If the GS F does reach production, it would be as a 2014 model.
Power may come from a supercharged V8.
CEO Akio Toyoda is in favor of F Sport and F models.
Lexus is still considering a high-performance GS F model.
If the GS F does reach production, it would be as a 2014 model.
Power may come from a supercharged V8.
CEO Akio Toyoda is in favor of F Sport and F models.
PEBBLE BEACH, California — With the recent introduction of the 2013 Lexus GS, Toyota's luxury brand has further fueled speculation that the company is working on a high-performance version of the sedan to battle the BMW M5 and Mercedes-Benz C63. If the speculation is correct, the model would be called the GS F, just as the high-performance V8-powered version of the smaller IS is called the IS F.
Although Lexus officials refuse to confirm the existence of the GS F, Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda hinted heavily at the model being in Lexus' future plans during a recent roundtable with journalists in Pebble Beach, California.
"I want Lexus to be the brand chosen by the most sophisticated of drivers," Toyoda told us. "I want Lexus to compete around the world with global Lexus models. And don't worry about high-performance Lexuses like F Sport and F models going away."
Toyoda went on to tell us how much he likes driving. And how skilled he is behind the wheel. In fact, he let it be known that he drove to the interview from San Francisco in a 2013 GS 350, switching off along the way to a Mercedes E-Class and a BMW 5 Series. Word from his handlers is that he made the run in record time, arriving early and surprising them.
If the GS F does make production, speculation is that it will be powered by a supercharged version of the 5.0-liter V8 used in the IS F. Lexus has noticed Cadillac's recent success with supercharging in the CTS-V, and may choose that route over more complex and more expensive turbocharging.
Power should be in the 550 range, which is well above the 414 hp the V8 now makes in the IS F. The 2 cars are expected to share the same 8-speed automatic transmission.
Lexus will also soon introduce a new redesigned version of the IS, and the supercharged engine could see double duty in that product as well. Although all-wheel drive has been considered for both products, which would increase the vehicle's appeal in the Northeast and take on Audi head-to-head, we expect the GS F to be rear-wheel drive.
Inside Line says: If Lexus really wants to be a player, it has to make the GS F. And it has to perform as well as the new 2013 BMW M5.
09-06-11, 09:15 AM
#232
Supercharged 5.0L V8 in the GS-F make sense, as that set up is already being developed for the future Lotus Esprit and Elite, Lotus is aiming for 620 hp for their application.
It would be so awesome, blown GS-F = reliable W211 E55
Please use the same motor in a LS-F
It would be so awesome, blown GS-F = reliable W211 E55
Please use the same motor in a LS-F
09-06-11, 09:16 AM
#233
Please offer us some nicer and aggressive F wheels (not F sport).
I don't like that lotus flower design from the new IS F
I like
I don't like that lotus flower design from the new IS F
Power should be in the 550 range, which is well above the 414 hp the V8 now makes in the IS F.
Inside Line says: If Lexus really wants to be a player, it has to make the GS F. And it has to perform as well as the new 2013 BMW M5
Inside Line says: If Lexus really wants to be a player, it has to make the GS F. And it has to perform as well as the new 2013 BMW M5
09-06-11, 12:57 PM
#240
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Just the Facts:
Lexus is still considering a high-performance GS F model.
If the GS F does reach production, it would be as a 2014 model.
Power may come from a supercharged V8.
CEO Akio Toyoda is in favor of F Sport and F models.
Lexus is still considering a high-performance GS F model.
If the GS F does reach production, it would be as a 2014 model.
Power may come from a supercharged V8.
CEO Akio Toyoda is in favor of F Sport and F models.
PEBBLE BEACH, California — With the recent introduction of the 2013 Lexus GS, Toyota's luxury brand has further fueled speculation that the company is working on a high-performance version of the sedan to battle the BMW M5 and Mercedes-Benz C63. If the speculation is correct, the model would be called the GS F, just as the high-performance V8-powered version of the smaller IS is called the IS F.
Although Lexus officials refuse to confirm the existence of the GS F, Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda hinted heavily at the model being in Lexus' future plans during a recent roundtable with journalists in Pebble Beach, California.
"I want Lexus to be the brand chosen by the most sophisticated of drivers," Toyoda told us. "I want Lexus to compete around the world with global Lexus models. And don't worry about high-performance Lexuses like F Sport and F models going away."
Toyoda went on to tell us how much he likes driving. And how skilled he is behind the wheel. In fact, he let it be known that he drove to the interview from San Francisco in a 2013 GS 350, switching off along the way to a Mercedes E-Class and a BMW 5 Series. Word from his handlers is that he made the run in record time, arriving early and surprising them.
If the GS F does make production, speculation is that it will be powered by a supercharged version of the 5.0-liter V8 used in the IS F. Lexus has noticed Cadillac's recent success with supercharging in the CTS-V, and may choose that route over more complex and more expensive turbocharging.
Power should be in the 550 range, which is well above the 414 hp the V8 now makes in the IS F. The 2 cars are expected to share the same 8-speed automatic transmission.
Lexus will also soon introduce a new redesigned version of the IS, and the supercharged engine could see double duty in that product as well. Although all-wheel drive has been considered for both products, which would increase the vehicle's appeal in the Northeast and take on Audi head-to-head, we expect the GS F to be rear-wheel drive.
Inside Line says: If Lexus really wants to be a player, it has to make the GS F. And it has to perform as well as the new 2013 BMW M5.
For those of you discussing hacking the ECU, there is no hacking required to run higher boost. All that is required is a different size pulley. The CTS V guys do this all the time and add larger injectors as their power goals increase. It seems that the 8-speed tranny will be beefed up for higher performance duty if Lexus is intent on using the IS-F tranny in the GS-F. This would also be a smart move, IMO. The only real question I have is whether or not the IS-F and the GS-F will have the same power rating. Regardless, this is really good news.