I test drove a 350 back in February and a 450h a few days ago. The recent test drive just reaffirmed my belief that this car needs a V8. A big, honkin V8.

 

Going to stoke the fire a bit here. I got my R&T issue in the mail today. In the section where they talk about all the changes across the various brands & models, they said to (paraphrased) "Keep your eye out for a 500hp GS-F".

I actually hope one doesn't come out. Because then I need to explain to my wife how my 350 AWD F-Sport is suddenly inadequately equipped to help me take care of the family and provide safe transport for our child(ren). I have a feeling that she won't understand...

 

They have been saying that for a few years now.................

I hope it doesn't come out too, because I would want it. I am really glad the V10 is definitely not making it, because I would sell everything and buy one immidiately

No offence to your fine car, but is 100% true that a GS350 F-Sport is inadequately equipped (powertrain wise) for 2013, where a $47k Hyundai Genesis R-Spec is rocking a 430 hp 5.0L V8, a 300 hp V6 in a $70k Lexus is not cutting it. That V6 was great in 2006 in a $45k IS350, but not in a $70k GS in 2013. Even the lesser $65k Infiniti M56 got 420 hp a few years ago.

A 500 hp GS-F is really just on par with everything else, nothing crazy either. All midsize luxury high performance sedan are 500+ hp starting from a few years ago, they are all pushing 600 hp now.

 

If you trade it with the same color (red on cab.), she won't notice it

 

Excellent point!!

That's why you want to only married a woman that is ignorant about cars, so they don't know how much you spend on it

My mom can't tell a ES from a LS. It would take an Aventador with the doors opened for her to tell it is a different car.

 

Sure, or you can marry a woman who loves cars (not the one who just recognize the badges) as much as you do, though it can become an expensive habit

And about Moms not knowing about cars, they have diplomatic immunity

 

tell me about it. it's far "easier" to have a wife who's into cars. trust me, first hand experience

 

No offense taken here. I find my GS F-Sport has more than adequate power to do anything I need to do that is within legal limits. More horsepower would be a "want", not a "need" for me.

 

Glad I stoked a little fire here.

My wife is actually great with everything in reason. As long as I'm not spending our childrens university funds, I think she'd generally accept anything.

Good call on swapping for the exact same color combo. She would probably notice though (even if the F-Sport and GS-F look almost the same). I've made her as particular about swirls (I was gifted many from the dealer) and scuffs (none so far) that she'd notice a brand new car sitting on the driveway, even if it did have the exact same body.

 

Oh, and also as a note for BNR34. I considered the Genesis 5.0. At the end of the day, I was sold on more than just the powertrain. And like dseag2 said, what I have in my car is more than sufficient. I'd love more, but don't regret my decision one little bit.

 

the only thing i regret about my F-Sport is at 65K it doesn't have my coffee ready for me when i get in,,, in the morning other than that i have no problems or regrets or buyers remorse. a 500 HP Lexus GS-F,,, as a daily driver???? when will you or how many times will you get to really take advantage of all that power.???? i think most want it for bragging rights. I WOULD BUY IT IN A HEARTBEAT

 

No offence to you but IMHO your thinking is a little skewed.

Majority of 5 series PURCHASED in NA are 535i and 528i costing a few thousand more than a comparably equipped GS350 and with comparable hp. Same with Audi A6 and MB E350.

What Hyundai is doing is undercutting the entire market : they're the exception, not the norm.

V8s and >500hp sedans are probably less than 5% of all luxury/mid-luxury sedans purchased in NA. The discrepancy becomes even more pronounced when considering world-wide sales where the rest of the world doesn't share the US obsession with V8s.

 

to call 306 hp GS350 "inadequately equipped" is exaggeration of worst kind. You can get 270hp Camry for 25k if thats how you judge cars btw.

I understand why limited amount of people might want 500hp GS-F, but that doesnt make GS350 "inadequately equipped". I had one for 3 years, and I actually get to drive 100mph legally unlike you, so no, it was not "inadequately equipped".

 

Hehe so anyways:
When can we expect a V8 engine for the 4th generation GS? Anyone wanna bring out their crystal *****?

 

There is definitely room under the hood for a larger engine. Although, seeing as how the 4GS almost didn't make production, I find it very hard to believe a GS-F will make it, unless the 4GS blows sales forecasts out of the water (which it is not).