Lexus will listen to customer like ME
09-13-11, 08:06 AM
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I don't want a V8, period. I want a decent V6 (300+ HP 5.7s 0-60 is more than enough) or a good hybrid (techies and effecient). As an MBA I know that market determines the products, not enthusiats or racing magazines. The look of int and ext plus the reliablity will sell the car. I hope that Lexus will hold the base price. Can't wait to test drive and check out the real car.
Who is on the same boat with me?
Who is on the same boat with me?
09-13-11, 08:31 AM
#18
IS-F and LF-A are for "show the world what we can do" but in fact they are probably loosing millions of dollars. With less than 10% sales in the V8 model it is a tough choice to bring that to the market.
I know many enthusiasts said they wanted the V8 version but that number is so small comparing to the people who opted for the V6. They may LOOSE 2000 sales on the V8 takers but gain 10000 more sales when they make the V6 better. It is all about COSTS vs Benefits and when one is outweigh the other it is next to impossible to pick the the lost one.
BMW and MB do NOT sales that many in their V8 top-of-the-line models. The reason their numbers are high because most buyers opt for the 528/530 or E350.
I know many enthusiasts said they wanted the V8 version but that number is so small comparing to the people who opted for the V6. They may LOOSE 2000 sales on the V8 takers but gain 10000 more sales when they make the V6 better. It is all about COSTS vs Benefits and when one is outweigh the other it is next to impossible to pick the the lost one.
BMW and MB do NOT sales that many in their V8 top-of-the-line models. The reason their numbers are high because most buyers opt for the 528/530 or E350.
09-13-11, 09:30 AM
#19
i will say this, i go around some rich neighborhoods very often. to be honest i see a lot more 550i and e550 (ratio wise) than 535i and e350. that tells me for the rich, they care about v8 (or maybe they can actually afford it). when it comes to luxury brands and image, having v8 has an advantage imho.
don't need to look far, just look here on clublexus. i will challenge everyone who attacked on acura before for not having v8 on their cars, including the flagship rl. and thus it has no place in luxury car segment. apply that on lexus with the gs (at least on v8 variant). luxury brands are all about extra when it comes to the brand itself
don't need to look far, just look here on clublexus. i will challenge everyone who attacked on acura before for not having v8 on their cars, including the flagship rl. and thus it has no place in luxury car segment. apply that on lexus with the gs (at least on v8 variant). luxury brands are all about extra when it comes to the brand itself
09-13-11, 09:36 AM
#20
i will say this, i go around some rich neighborhoods very often. to be honest i see a lot more 550i and e550 (ratio wise) than 535i and e350. that tells me for the rich, they care about v8 (or maybe they can actually afford it). when it comes to luxury brands and image, having v8 has an advantage imho.
don't need to look far, just look here on clublexus. i will challenge everyone who attacked on acura before for not having v8 on their cars, including the flagship rl. and thus it has no place in luxury car segment. apply that on lexus with the gs (at least on v8 variant). luxury brands are all about extra when it comes to the brand itself
don't need to look far, just look here on clublexus. i will challenge everyone who attacked on acura before for not having v8 on their cars, including the flagship rl. and thus it has no place in luxury car segment. apply that on lexus with the gs (at least on v8 variant). luxury brands are all about extra when it comes to the brand itself
Agree completely....
10-12-11, 10:48 AM
#22
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An MBA? Oh no! My opinion is obviously worthless.
A V8 offering helps with image. Lexus would obviously know from past sales that the V8 is not the volume seller. But people sometimes want it, or at least the option to have it. Did they teach you that in your MBA program?
As I've said before, I bought my GS 400 because I WANTED it, not because I needed it.
The same justification could be said for my NSX, MR2, Plasma TV, etc.
A V8 offering helps with image. Lexus would obviously know from past sales that the V8 is not the volume seller. But people sometimes want it, or at least the option to have it. Did they teach you that in your MBA program?
As I've said before, I bought my GS 400 because I WANTED it, not because I needed it.
The same justification could be said for my NSX, MR2, Plasma TV, etc.
10-12-11, 10:59 AM
#23
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Guys lets keep the discussion on the vehicle, not the people posting in the thread please.
10-12-11, 11:30 AM
#24
An MBA? Oh no! My opinion is obviously worthless.
A V8 offering helps with image. Lexus would obviously know from past sales that the V8 is not the volume seller. But people sometimes want it, or at least the option to have it. Did they teach you that in your MBA program?
As I've said before, I bought my GS 400 because I WANTED it, not because I needed it.
The same justification could be said for my NSX, MR2, Plasma TV, etc.
A V8 offering helps with image. Lexus would obviously know from past sales that the V8 is not the volume seller. But people sometimes want it, or at least the option to have it. Did they teach you that in your MBA program?
As I've said before, I bought my GS 400 because I WANTED it, not because I needed it.
The same justification could be said for my NSX, MR2, Plasma TV, etc.
10-12-11, 02:27 PM
#25
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An MBA? Oh no! My opinion is obviously worthless.
A V8 offering helps with image. Lexus would obviously know from past sales that the V8 is not the volume seller. But people sometimes want it, or at least the option to have it. Did they teach you that in your MBA program?
As I've said before, I bought my GS 400 because I WANTED it, not because I needed it.
The same justification could be said for my NSX, MR2, Plasma TV, etc.
A V8 offering helps with image. Lexus would obviously know from past sales that the V8 is not the volume seller. But people sometimes want it, or at least the option to have it. Did they teach you that in your MBA program?
As I've said before, I bought my GS 400 because I WANTED it, not because I needed it.
The same justification could be said for my NSX, MR2, Plasma TV, etc.
What I was saying is the case between COST vs BENEFIT or in this case cost vs profit. It is not about wants and needs. Nobody needs a V8 as a mean of transportation, but they want it just because they want to have it.
Now about the "image" you guys talk about. When your business is good and you have extra resources you can do that; however, it does not make sense when you are playing catch up then why would you (as a CEO/CFO of the company) choose to go that route?
This is just my Point of View so there is NO right or wrong. Remember, to each of his own.
***Sorry, my English may be not as good as yours since I am an ELL....
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