oohpapi44

iTrader: (1)

If you did not own a 2GS, then you wouldn't understand where this LARGE population of sentiment comes from. Most GS400 owners looking to move up the product line (01 430, 05 430, etc) are unhappy with the evolution.

You taking a 3GS over a 2GS definitely puts you in the minority. The poll responses attest to that.

jtrue28

False.

So why do you 3GS haters own a 3GS? If you're so in love with the 2GS, there are plenty out there to buy. Not you specifically.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

your comment is quite silly. if you look at 2gs and 3gs and put up a score sheet, of course 3gs is better. better gas mileage, better power, better technology. for crying out loud, when generation of cars evolve, that better be the case otherwise it's just plain dumb. however, when moving from one generation to next, there is always expectations as well that's carried over, and on that plenty of people (you can even find that in the 3gs forum) putting up their notes on the 3gs vs 2gs, from build quality to space.

you can't remotely say that just because the 3gs has better gas mileage, more power, and better navigation, and so it's totally fine to have small cabin space, rattles and squeaks, and worse build quality

jre002

Not discounting others' experiences, but neither of the two 3GSs I own have any problems. In that vein, you can't arbitrarily state that it has worse build quality.

lexusben

iTrader: (3)

I also wish the 4GS had quad headlights, and also that the grille had vertical slants.

jre002

The poll results show that there are more 2GS owners on this forum than 3GS owners. This will sound badly, however I'll just go ahead and state it... the 2GS is more affordable and typically a younger crowd who posts on enthusiast forums will be more apt to vote in these polls and give commentary. You can pick them up for well under 10K. More 3GS owners will be in these forums in 4-5 years, trust me.

As far as me not understanding sentiment because I don't have a 2GS, that is ridiculous. I understand the appeal of the 2GS and think it is/was a great car. All I said that I am happy with my 3GS and that I *personally* would take a 3GS over a 2GS anyday. What's the big deal with that?

rominl

iTrader: (4)

i can say that because i take apart cars day in day out, and it's evidently enough to me when i see all the little problems on the 3gs compared to 2gs on a lot of details

oohpapi44

iTrader: (1)

Why is there a need to offer a rebuttal on an opinion?

Affordability had nothing do with my scenario and seeing how long I've owned my 2GS and been a member so obviously I didn't pay 10k for her. There was absolutely nothing about the 3GS that warranted spending another 50+K and dumping my 2GS. That's the sentiment for a lot of 2GS owners for whatever reason (build quality, no real hp increase, new styling, etc).

You're happy with your cars, great. That's your opinion. Doesn't make you right or me wrong. But to try to 'correct' someone is the ridiculous part.

jre002

Please don't misquote me. I did not correct anyone's opinions. As a matter of fact that is exactly what I just said is ridiculous. I merely stated that I personally prefer the 3GS. At no point did I attempt to invalidate anyone's opinion. The thing I argued against was the notion that an unscientific poll on this forum proves the superiority of the 2GS over the 3GS.

Just to clarify, I also never said I was right or wrong. I don't know how much more clearly I could have stated that than my last post.

That's all I said, and then you hit me with I wouldn't understand this or that because I don't own a 2GS. FYI, I have a great deal of respect for the 2GS and it is still the iconic Lexus GS. Anyways, cheers man. I don't want to get in a pissing match.

jre002

Ok man, if you say so. I don't have much experience with the 2GS so I really have nothing to compare it to. All I can go off is my 3GSs which as I stated before have been good to me so far.

mikemareen

The best quad headlights is the Mercedes E class.

Well everyone hated the Chris bangle BMW 7 series, but they sold a grip of them....the grille is fine, its aggressive and snouty and strong...the problem is the back just like the isf, the imbalance is too much, front is very strong and back is too plain.

jtrue28

Couldn't have said it better myself.

GS3Tek

iTrader: (8)

Not too bad

Can you do something about the foglights?

Something angular, the circular design kills the front end for me

LexFather

I do wish it had quad lamps and I miss the waterfall grill.......

adamls2

i cant wait to see the after market bumpers for this car... hopefully they will have some kind of solution for the grill... thats the only thing thats killing it for me with this car...