What's more fun to drive? 2013 GS F Sport or 2012 BMW 335i?
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What's more fun to drive as a sports car, the 2013 GS F Sport or the 2012 BMW 335i? What's better in terms of speed, acceleration, handling, reliability? Looking to buy either one soon.
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I'm not sure how we are going to answer that. Neither car has been out long enough for even a test drive for most of us. Both cars just starting hit dealers about a week ago. My guess would be that the 335 would be the choice from a performance standpoint, and the Lexus for reliability. But that's obviously just a guess.
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Aren't we talking about two different class of cars here? Thought the 5 series was the GS competitor...
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I can help comment on this.
I have a 2008 BMW 335i and had a 2011 BMW 535i xdrive that I sold. In comparison, the new GS is a much better car in driving perspective than the BMW 535i without sports package by a decent margin. The 335i which feels stiffer and more planted is more fun to push it to the limits but for daily driving its tiring at times. The 2012 is the older 3 series and is not very smooth on bumps, pavements, and certain highways due to runflats so I would switch them out to regular tires like I did on my 2 BMWs. I am getting the new 2013 GS next month.
I have a 2008 BMW 335i and had a 2011 BMW 535i xdrive that I sold. In comparison, the new GS is a much better car in driving perspective than the BMW 535i without sports package by a decent margin. The 335i which feels stiffer and more planted is more fun to push it to the limits but for daily driving its tiring at times. The 2012 is the older 3 series and is not very smooth on bumps, pavements, and certain highways due to runflats so I would switch them out to regular tires like I did on my 2 BMWs. I am getting the new 2013 GS next month.
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You are on a Lexus forum so everyone will say the GS350. They will also not like this post because I think their new car is not so great.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
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You are on a Lexus forum so everyone will say the GS350. They will also not like this post because I think their new car is not so great.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
Also, what's wrong with the Lexus transmission?
Thanks,
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Drove the '13 GS 350 last weekend and '12 BMW F30 335i a few days ago.
GS is more luxurious and a much comfortable interior.
335i is much more performance oriented with a sacrifice to the interior quality (e.g. leather etc.)
GS is more luxurious and a much comfortable interior.
335i is much more performance oriented with a sacrifice to the interior quality (e.g. leather etc.)
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Take a look here and look up the dealer if you want to see how they are equipped....
http://www.cars.com/for-sale/new/sed...102&bsId=20211
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You are on a Lexus forum so everyone will say the GS350. They will also not like this post because I think their new car is not so great.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
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Its amazing all the bs people just spit out of their mouths when they have no clue whatsoever. It is annoying when people assume they know it all when in reality they don't know ****.
By the way....a fully loaded gs fsport is $58,xxx and a fully loaded 535i is $61,435. So there is about a $3000 difference in price, NOT $10,000. The f sport is just *** ugly unfortunately so I think my next car may be a 535.
By the way....a fully loaded gs fsport is $58,xxx and a fully loaded 535i is $61,435. So there is about a $3000 difference in price, NOT $10,000. The f sport is just *** ugly unfortunately so I think my next car may be a 535.
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Its amazing all the bs people just spit out of their mouths when they have no clue whatsoever. It is annoying when people assume they know it all when in reality they don't know ****.
By the way....a fully loaded gs fsport is $58,xxx and a fully loaded 535i is $61,435. So there is about a $3000 difference in price, NOT $10,000. The f sport is just *** ugly unfortunately so I think my next car may be a 535.
By the way....a fully loaded gs fsport is $58,xxx and a fully loaded 535i is $61,435. So there is about a $3000 difference in price, NOT $10,000. The f sport is just *** ugly unfortunately so I think my next car may be a 535.
Here is just a quick sampling...
http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchr...rce=TRAIL_HEAD
I suggest you try pricing one that gets you M-Sport, ventilated seats, premium sound and other stuff that almost any other car that costs that much comes standard with - like heated seats, keyless entry etc.
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You are on a Lexus forum so everyone will say the GS350. They will also not like this post because I think their new car is not so great.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
I will say the BMW, because I think the Lexus power train is complete rubbish in real-world use due to the lack of low-end torque.
It has the same problem as the 2010 Mercedes E550 - looks good on paper with lots of hp, but the lack of torque and poor transmission make the car difficult to enjoy.
The powertrain is fine for real world use, but it will be lacking if you want to go out "sport driving" every time you drive it. If straight line speed and low end torque is your top priority, get an A6 3.0T. It has everyone else in the segment beat in that area.