kssod

Still undecided between the F sport and a lux AWD. From what i can tell there is very little difference in the AVS and bushings, suspension between the AWD models. It almost comes down to cosmetic appearances, as the pricing is almost identical. The Lux does have better leather, 18 way seats, AFS lights, fog lights, rear heated seats, and 18" wheels with better tires for all season compared to the 19" bridgestones and of course the ML. the F has the rear spoiler, front grill and the other F sport items and can also now pretty easily get the ML, but for 85% of my driving, highway mostly with a few nice curves, in sport plus I am not sure there is a noticeable difference. I do like the all leather steering wheel better than the wood.
My question is, there is a discrepancy in the pricing between Truecar, Edmunds , and KBB that each price the options separately and Lexus.com that has a Luxury package for $10645, that brings the price to 60970. But, does this include the power rear sun shade and side shades (i.e. premium package)?
On Truecar all of the items are al a carte and the price is higher at $12045.

Does anyone have a window sticker of a GS AWD with lux and cold weather package, without the HUD and PCS.

The internal debate is F sport AWD with ML in Nebula Grey over Cab, VS AWD lux Meteor blue over Flaxen and linear expresso

Outrage

I was upfront concerning the trade-in. I believe the dealership quoted me a high value on my trade-in inadvertently. I was negotiating the deal on a Friday afternoon near closing time. The individuals they would normally have contacted for the trade-in's valuation were unavailable (the Lexus used car manager and the local Ford dealership used car manager). As the car was new (2012), and equivalent models in the same trim level (Edge Sport) had not yet passed through the local dealer auctions, there was little information on which to base a reasonable market value offer.

The following Monday, the salesperson called me to let me know they would honor the negotiated price, but it was clear that the dealership was going to be unwilling to source a vehicle, as that would eat in to the meager profits. The negotiated deal was only good for 30 days which would have exceeded the lead time needed to factory order a vehicle. Any subsequent (post-30 days) trade-in value offer was not going to be nearly as high as this one. Other non-Lexus dealerships offered trade-in values closer to my expectations ($3,000 to $5,000 less).

I do not believe my negotiated deal would be typical for this region. There are only nine Lexus dealerships spread throughout the state, and the two closest dealerships to my local one are approximately 70 miles away, which makes them effectively in different markets. It is much harder to work the dealerships off one another when they do not operate in the same market.

Outrage

Here is the window sticker information from my GS 350 AWD equipped with the Luxury Package:

• Lexus GS 350 AWD: $49,450
• Blind Spot Monitor: $500
• Luxury Package with Cold Weather Package: $6,090
• HDD Navigation: $1,735
• Intuitive Park Assist: $500
• Remote Engine Start: $499
• Accessory Package: $242

Sub-total: $59,016
Destination, Processing, and Handling Fee: $875
Total: $59,891

The Luxury Package with heated rear seats costs an addition $500 ($6,590). The Premium Package items are included in the Luxury Package.

DeViNe350

Can someone tell me if this is a great deal or not on a new 2013 GS350 FSport Starfire or Nebula Gray w/ Cabernet.

Base Model: $46,900.00
Blind Spot Monitor: $500.00
FSport Package: $5690.00
Mark Levinson: $1380.00
HDD NavIgation: $1735.00
Intuitive Park Assist: $500.00
Accessory Package: $242.00
Dest: $875.00
Total: $57,822.00
Nego price: $53,871.00
Net sales price including sales tax & fees: $59,159.47

Out of pocket: $3000
Terms: 36 months/10k/residual $37,584.30
Monthly payments: $661.05

LMK. Thanks.

jmsab

Is that $3000 out of pocket above paying the taxes up front and other fees? If so, I don't see how you can possibly be getting that deal based on what I'm being offered after a lot of negotiating. Check out my post a few back. Sounds like a good deal especially for an fsport.

faifai83

In order to better assist, please provide the following:

- Invoice Price
- Acquisition Fee
- Money Factor
- Residual
- Down Payment, if any.

DeViNe350

Hi,

This is all Ive received and did not receive the info you mentioned above besides down payment of $3000. LMK if this is a great deal or not. Thanks.

Vehicle Base Model .......................... $ 46900.00
Blind Spot Monitor System .................. 500.00
F SPORT Pkg: Rain-sensing wipers, Heated & 5690.00
Ventilated Front Seats & Power Rear Sunshade,
19-inch Split-Five-Spoke Alloy Wheels, w/Dark
Graphite Finish, Staggered fitment w/Summer
Tires, F SPORT-tuned Adaptive Variable .....
Suspension (AVS), Variable Gear-Ratio Steering
(VGRS), Sport S Drive Mode, 14.0-in, Two-Pie
Front-Brake Rotors w/Four-Piston Calipers, 16
F SPORT Driver''s Seat w/Power Side Bolsters,
Striated Aluminum Int Trim, Black Headliner,
F SPORT Front Bumper, Upper & Lower Grille In
Rear Valence & Rear Lip Spoiler Inserts ....
Mark Levin-son Premium Surround Sound Audio Sy 1380.00
HDD Navigation w/12.3-inch High-Resolution sp 1735.00
screen multimedia display & Lexus Enform w/De
& eDestination, App Suite, SiriusXM NavWeathe
NavTraffic Sports/Stocks. (1-yr trial sub inc
Intuitive Park Assist ...................... 500.00
Accy Pkg: Trunk Mat, Cargo Net & Wheel Locks 242.00
Destination Charge ..........................: $ 875.00
Total .......................................: $ 57822.00

Retail Price
$57,822.00
Savings
$3,951.00
Selling Price
$53,871.00
Options
$0.00
Sub-Total
$53,871.00
*Fees
$567.75
**SalesTax
$4,720.72
Net Sales Price
$59,159.47




Lease Options
Out Of Pocket:
$3,000.00
Term
Mileage
Residual

36 Mos.
10K
$37,584.30

$661.05
1st. Payment, security deposit, tax on down payment, license, title and documentation due at delivery.

faifai83

- Cash price is invoice + $500.
- Residual is 65%

I'd suggest doing $0 down payment and use the funds for a security deposit instead to buy down the money factor.

I'd suggest reaching out to your dealer and ask what the "money factor" is. Money factor is the "interest rate" on your lease.

JAS350

Looking to trade my BMW 535 for GS 350 F sport. Any good dealers around NYC area you would recommended? It seems like the price can be at invoice or lower if we have the Conquest credit.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated at I am new to Lexus. Many thanks in advance

kssod

So spent extensive time looking and playing with Enform, and the stereo. A F sport AWD with ML is available with a sticker of $60377
Assume 5% off plus $1500 conquest. How does one decide between a lease 12-15k/yr or a purchase? My equity is about 14k in trade that I would take cash payment.
The question is no money down lease plus fees, ( what are the fees with lexus current lease) vs finance 60 month applying trade and another 5k out of pocket.
At 36 months which way am I ahead?
At 60 months what is the equity approx for future trade?

zoombie99

Most luxury packages do not have heated rear seats. Look carefully at the sticker

zoombie99

It should be around invoice less the conquest. The issue will probably be your trade in.

sydtoosic

Go to LEXUS OF ROCKVILLE CENTRE, on Sunrise Highway in L.I. See Stephen Torrens, he's good people. and the FM will def work with you his name is Joe Montana. i've bought four cars from them,,, they haven't let me down yet.

Allb18c

iTrader: (1)

Just talked to the sales manager of my local dealership and he would sell me a F-Sport AWD at invoice. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger. Should I push for another 500.00 off?

kssod

What dealer? I only got offered 1700 off