F Sport vs Luxury
#16
335i? In tax-heavy Singapore? Hmm.........I would've thought that Performance Motors would have brought in lower displacement models as their mass-market varints for the F30. You know, 320i, 318i, etc.
The only downside is here is our F-sport suffers the same fate like in Guam because for the Philippine market (dunno if it applies in Singapore as well), well..........our F-sport get these ugly-looking eyesores:
The only downside is here is our F-sport suffers the same fate like in Guam because for the Philippine market (dunno if it applies in Singapore as well), well..........our F-sport get these ugly-looking eyesores:
Yes we get those ugly 18" wheels too......
I'm looking at these official F-sport accessory wheels. The great thing about them are that they're forged as compared to the stock 19 inchers which are cast :
19-in Full-Face Forged Alloy Wheels
(GS 350 RWD only) Add a bold and athletic edge with 19-inch F SPORT full-face forged-aluminum alloy wheels[*] clad in a Liquid Silver high-gloss finish. The lightweight forged-aluminum alloy helps reduce unsprung weight, while the ultrastrong, hub-centric design limits vibration and reduces weight even further. They require spline-drive lug nuts, which are included in the available Wheel Installation Kit.
MSRP: $2,196[*] Available Late Summer 2012
http://www.lexus.com/models/GS/accessories/index.html#p
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2013/5463.html
#17
I'm looking at these official F-sport accessory wheels. The great thing about them are that they're forged as compared to the stock 19 inchers which are cast :
Sewell Lexus is selling them.I'm thinking of shipping them by sea to Singapore :
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2013/5463.html
Sewell Lexus is selling them.I'm thinking of shipping them by sea to Singapore :
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/accesso...2013/5463.html
Also, what do you mean when you say "forged" wheels?
Are these wheels staggered like 19 inch twin-spoke F-sport wheels (i.e. rear wheels bigger than front wheels).......or are these like the normal size (front and rear are same dimensions)?
Is it possible to replace the wheel logo cap? (I would prefer to see it with the Lexus "L" logo instead of the "F" sport logo).
Thanks
#18
http://www.corwheels.com/forged-vs-c...he-difference/
Basically forging > casting since it results in lighter,stronger and more durable wheels. Lighter wheels also reduce unsprung weight and thus improve responsiveness of the suspension and hence handling.
From the Sewell Lexus link I provided, they are staggered like the stock 19inchers on the RWD F-sport(19X8 front,19X9 rear) but lighter due to their forged construction.Otherwise fitment should be exactly the same.
You should email Sewell Lexus about the wheel cap logo.I'm not sure about that one....
Basically forging > casting since it results in lighter,stronger and more durable wheels. Lighter wheels also reduce unsprung weight and thus improve responsiveness of the suspension and hence handling.
From the Sewell Lexus link I provided, they are staggered like the stock 19inchers on the RWD F-sport(19X8 front,19X9 rear) but lighter due to their forged construction.Otherwise fitment should be exactly the same.
You should email Sewell Lexus about the wheel cap logo.I'm not sure about that one....
#21
if so, of course can't tell. they have the exact same suspension. the fsport has bigger brakes and maybe 19" wheels, otherwise the ride is exactly the same
#22
#23
Wow, that looks neat as well (strange that these wheels are not posted at Lexus Japan website). Question are these wheels made in Japan.........or in America?
Also, what do you mean when you say "forged" wheels?
Are these wheels staggered like 19 inch twin-spoke F-sport wheels (i.e. rear wheels bigger than front wheels).......or are these like the normal size (front and rear are same dimensions)?
Is it possible to replace the wheel logo cap? (I would prefer to see it with the Lexus "L" logo instead of the "F" sport logo).
Thanks
Also, what do you mean when you say "forged" wheels?
Are these wheels staggered like 19 inch twin-spoke F-sport wheels (i.e. rear wheels bigger than front wheels).......or are these like the normal size (front and rear are same dimensions)?
Is it possible to replace the wheel logo cap? (I would prefer to see it with the Lexus "L" logo instead of the "F" sport logo).
Thanks
Yah the wheel cap can be replaced.
#24
between fsport and regular gs350 with luxury package, the suspension is exactly the same. fsport doesn't have stiffer springs or shocks. all settings the same, even at S+. keep in mind it's compared to the luxury package. the base regular gs350 of course has less aggressive setup.
i was informed of this when i first tested the gs350 in person. i was surprised and can't say i am impressed by it. i would expect maybe some lowering and preferably even more aggressive suspension. at least you get the bigger brakes and larger wheels.
i was informed of this when i first tested the gs350 in person. i was surprised and can't say i am impressed by it. i would expect maybe some lowering and preferably even more aggressive suspension. at least you get the bigger brakes and larger wheels.
#25
It's not just the larger brakes and wheels though.
In Japan and Singapore at least, the F-Sport gets the VGRS that the Luxury doesn't get.Also the VDIM is programmed to be less instrusive in the Sport+ setting for the F-Sport
It's not just the components that matter.In the F-Sport, all 4 components of handling: VGRS,DRS,VDIM and AVS are integrated to work together.You don't get that level of integration/synergy with the Luxury model. You can download the brochure from the Lexus Jp English website that says as much.
In Japan and Singapore at least, the F-Sport gets the VGRS that the Luxury doesn't get.Also the VDIM is programmed to be less instrusive in the Sport+ setting for the F-Sport
It's not just the components that matter.In the F-Sport, all 4 components of handling: VGRS,DRS,VDIM and AVS are integrated to work together.You don't get that level of integration/synergy with the Luxury model. You can download the brochure from the Lexus Jp English website that says as much.
Last edited by natnut; 04-23-12 at 01:39 AM.
#29
It's not just the larger brakes and wheels though.
In Japan and Singapore at least, the F-Sport gets the VGRS that the Luxury doesn't get.Also the VDIM is programmed to be less instrusive in the Sport+ setting for the F-Sport
It's not just the components that matter.In the F-Sport, all 4 components of handling: VGRS,DRS,VDIM and AVS are integrated to work together.You don't get that level of integration/synergy with the Luxury model. You can download the brochure from the Lexus Jp English website that says as much.
In Japan and Singapore at least, the F-Sport gets the VGRS that the Luxury doesn't get.Also the VDIM is programmed to be less instrusive in the Sport+ setting for the F-Sport
It's not just the components that matter.In the F-Sport, all 4 components of handling: VGRS,DRS,VDIM and AVS are integrated to work together.You don't get that level of integration/synergy with the Luxury model. You can download the brochure from the Lexus Jp English website that says as much.
#30
I don’t really feel much of a difference between sport and sport+ mode on my 2013 Lexus GS 350 Luxury package.
In sport+ the suspension MIGHT be slightly firmer. I don’t notice any changes in the steering feel.
My 2006 E90 BMW 325 with sports package corners MUCH better. But at the same time, the BMW is a smaller car and it wouldn't be fair to compare the two.
Overall I’m happy with the Lexus, but I wish I could tell the difference between sport and sport+.
In sport+ the suspension MIGHT be slightly firmer. I don’t notice any changes in the steering feel.
My 2006 E90 BMW 325 with sports package corners MUCH better. But at the same time, the BMW is a smaller car and it wouldn't be fair to compare the two.
Overall I’m happy with the Lexus, but I wish I could tell the difference between sport and sport+.