Rear Styling
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For me the front end is distinct and aggressive, and I like it. I like Lexus making such a bold statement on a sedan. The slab, basic profile is majestic enough for me...and will look great with new shoes and a drop.
The rear is my biggest complaint. The exhaust is just not appealing to me (just too big and oblong...looks much better in the concept). And the two outer character lines lost in the translation from the concept to the 4GS just sucked all the rest of the style out of the rear, IMO. It's almost not even "fixable", but I guess it can be massaged with a subtle mod or two to blend in a tad better.
For me, the rear needs the most creativity from the aftermarket companies. It desperately needs help. When I see the car on the road now, the rear just makes me sigh because of it's blandness....and then when I see the concept's rear below, I get really sad, because Lexus got it initially right, and then didn't deliver.![Sad](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
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The rear is my biggest complaint. The exhaust is just not appealing to me (just too big and oblong...looks much better in the concept). And the two outer character lines lost in the translation from the concept to the 4GS just sucked all the rest of the style out of the rear, IMO. It's almost not even "fixable", but I guess it can be massaged with a subtle mod or two to blend in a tad better.
For me, the rear needs the most creativity from the aftermarket companies. It desperately needs help. When I see the car on the road now, the rear just makes me sigh because of it's blandness....and then when I see the concept's rear below, I get really sad, because Lexus got it initially right, and then didn't deliver.
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There's only so much that can be done to really differentiate car from car. They all "borrow" styling cues from the other brands. Look at the Hyundai Genesis, a total cross of the BMW 5, Mercedes E & 3GS...
I snowmobile and the snowmobile manufacturers do the same thing.
I snowmobile and the snowmobile manufacturers do the same thing.
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I know this is an old thread, but I was just reading through the Audi A7 forum and found this post:
Someone mistakenly thought my car was a Kia Optima?
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Went to a restaurant the other day with my wife and one of my kids and a waiter came out of nowhere and said "I am getting one those tomorrow!"
I said "great!"
He said "nice turbo, eh?"
I said, "no, it's supercharged"
He then said, "oh, I thought it was a Kia Optima"
So, there you go. Every car looks like every other car, and I guess these days it isn't bad to be confused with a Kia because they are now considered cutting-edge! Oh, and did I say I love my GS F Sport's rear end?
Someone mistakenly thought my car was a Kia Optima?
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Went to a restaurant the other day with my wife and one of my kids and a waiter came out of nowhere and said "I am getting one those tomorrow!"
I said "great!"
He said "nice turbo, eh?"
I said, "no, it's supercharged"
He then said, "oh, I thought it was a Kia Optima"
So, there you go. Every car looks like every other car, and I guess these days it isn't bad to be confused with a Kia because they are now considered cutting-edge! Oh, and did I say I love my GS F Sport's rear end?
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I know this is an old thread, but I was just reading through the Audi A7 forum and found this post:
Someone mistakenly thought my car was a Kia Optima?
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Went to a restaurant the other day with my wife and one of my kids and a waiter came out of nowhere and said "I am getting one those tomorrow!"
I said "great!"
He said "nice turbo, eh?"
I said, "no, it's supercharged"
He then said, "oh, I thought it was a Kia Optima"
So, there you go. Every car looks like every other car, and I guess these days it isn't bad to be confused with a Kia because they are now considered cutting-edge! Oh, and did I say I love my GS F Sport's rear end?![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Someone mistakenly thought my car was a Kia Optima?
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Went to a restaurant the other day with my wife and one of my kids and a waiter came out of nowhere and said "I am getting one those tomorrow!"
I said "great!"
He said "nice turbo, eh?"
I said, "no, it's supercharged"
He then said, "oh, I thought it was a Kia Optima"
So, there you go. Every car looks like every other car, and I guess these days it isn't bad to be confused with a Kia because they are now considered cutting-edge! Oh, and did I say I love my GS F Sport's rear end?
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If the rear looks so bland and like other car brands why not differentiate ourself from the rest of the pack with a couple of simple mods ????
There probably isn't any aftermarket ar spoilers yet but grab that and a rear window spoiler once these are out to market. They're usually installed with simple 3m tape and makes a huge difference and adds sportiness to that already sexy body of the 4G
There probably isn't any aftermarket ar spoilers yet but grab that and a rear window spoiler once these are out to market. They're usually installed with simple 3m tape and makes a huge difference and adds sportiness to that already sexy body of the 4G
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Does it really matter when the GS350 is so fun to drive? You'll be spending most of your time driving the car and enjoying the driving experience (since the new GS is currently the best driving sports sedan around) instead of spending time looking at the rear.
Unless you're a BMW owner, then maybe you'll be spending much more time at the dealership looking at your car being repaired instead of driving it. LOL
Unless you're a BMW owner, then maybe you'll be spending much more time at the dealership looking at your car being repaired instead of driving it. LOL
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When I first saw the GS4 on the road before I got mine, the fist thing I said was, "...good giief, it looks just like a Toyota rear end!"
I still think the same thing, even after I bought my GS4. Of course, that is the only similarity.
I still think the same thing, even after I bought my GS4. Of course, that is the only similarity.
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Does it really matter when the GS350 is so fun to drive? You'll be spending most of your time driving the car and enjoying the driving experience (since the new GS is currently the best driving sports sedan around) instead of spending time looking at the rear.
Unless you're a BMW owner, then maybe you'll be spending much more time at the dealership looking at your car being repaired instead of driving it. LOL
Unless you're a BMW owner, then maybe you'll be spending much more time at the dealership looking at your car being repaired instead of driving it. LOL
Actually, I give props to Kia and Hyundai for upping their game. I give thumbs down to Lexus for thinking customers will accept whatever they dish out. Looks like thats exactly whats happening too.
As for the op's comments, many cars have similarities. There are only so many designs out there. Plus, people try to stick with whatever is popular at the time. Doesn't bother me there are styling cues of another brand. What bothers me is Lexus created a car that this much conversation and controversy surround its appearance.
The 1 and 2GS models had nothing like this. The 3GS is not bad but even it didn't meet expectations established by the first 2. Lexus seems to have decided that they made tons of money and that's all that matters. Yopu guys keep buying the 4GS and the message to Lexus will be that you don't care if they make cars with controversial designs.
Good thing is there are so many other brands out there.
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Dude, you've have been against the 4GS since it came out...why keep coming over here to harp on it?
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It does seem curious. Especially since the 3GS is so much more inferior to the 4GS. The closest analogy I can think of is a house-cat laughing at a lion for not being able to climb trees.
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People that don't care about the look of a car don't spend 50K+ on their car. When you buy Lexus and other higher end cars, you expect distinctive and beautiful styling.
Actually, I give props to Kia and Hyundai for upping their game. I give thumbs down to Lexus for thinking customers will accept whatever they dish out. Looks like thats exactly whats happening too.
As for the op's comments, many cars have similarities. There are only so many designs out there. Plus, people try to stick with whatever is popular at the time. Doesn't bother me there are styling cues of another brand. What bothers me is Lexus created a car that this much conversation and controversy surround its appearance.
The 1 and 2GS models had nothing like this. The 3GS is not bad but even it didn't meet expectations established by the first 2. Lexus seems to have decided that they made tons of money and that's all that matters. Yopu guys keep buying the 4GS and the message to Lexus will be that you don't care if they make cars with controversial designs.
Good thing is there are so many other brands out there.
Actually, I give props to Kia and Hyundai for upping their game. I give thumbs down to Lexus for thinking customers will accept whatever they dish out. Looks like thats exactly whats happening too.
As for the op's comments, many cars have similarities. There are only so many designs out there. Plus, people try to stick with whatever is popular at the time. Doesn't bother me there are styling cues of another brand. What bothers me is Lexus created a car that this much conversation and controversy surround its appearance.
The 1 and 2GS models had nothing like this. The 3GS is not bad but even it didn't meet expectations established by the first 2. Lexus seems to have decided that they made tons of money and that's all that matters. Yopu guys keep buying the 4GS and the message to Lexus will be that you don't care if they make cars with controversial designs.
Good thing is there are so many other brands out there.
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The last 5 Series was controversally styled and BMW sold more of them than ever before, so "playing it safe" and even coming out with attractive, unified designs doesn't necessarily sell cars. Lexus also did well in the early years of the SC430, which was sexy from some angles and downright weird from others. The perfectly proportioned, univerally beautiful SC300/400, not so much.
My GS is sexy enough that I admire it in parking lots when I'm walking away from it and never think "what the hell was I thinking?", and when I'm driving it I don't care how it looks on the outside.
My GS is sexy enough that I admire it in parking lots when I'm walking away from it and never think "what the hell was I thinking?", and when I'm driving it I don't care how it looks on the outside.
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