Saying I got my car for Invoice or Below Dealer Cost should be BANNED
#17
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This is the thing, people put too much stock in trying to ascertain what the dealer's profit is. If I get a deal that works for me, and I know amongst my peers what they are paying and I can tell its a fair deal...I don't care if the dealer makes $20,000. Good for them, we're all out there trying to make a living.
List price: $59,911
Sale Price: $54,000 (including the $1,500 loyalty rebate)
Negotiated the money factor on my lease down from .0017 to .0007, which I think is excellent
Also negotiated $1,000 in profit out of my early lease trade in. Car is listed for $2,900 more than they gave me, which I think is more than fair.
No add ons, $200 processing fee.
Very happy with the deal, I think I could have done maybe $1k better, but I liked these guys, they didn't play around with me and I wanted to do the deal with them.
List price: $59,911
Sale Price: $54,000 (including the $1,500 loyalty rebate)
Negotiated the money factor on my lease down from .0017 to .0007, which I think is excellent
Also negotiated $1,000 in profit out of my early lease trade in. Car is listed for $2,900 more than they gave me, which I think is more than fair.
No add ons, $200 processing fee.
Very happy with the deal, I think I could have done maybe $1k better, but I liked these guys, they didn't play around with me and I wanted to do the deal with them.
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The bottom line is, I got the car I wanted (ordered), and for me time is money so I would rather be enjoying the car or getting on with life rather than dickering over a couple thousand $$. I could have waited to get a lower price, ....
Also, what is important is you feel you got the value you deserved for the price you paid. I certainly do.
Also, what is important is you feel you got the value you deserved for the price you paid. I certainly do.
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The only important thing to me is feeling satisfied with the deal I made. You can always find someone who has "one-up'd" the dealer or "paid less" then the other person.
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Yes that is my point. A lot of claims about a great deal but without the actual numbers or including the other items that went into the deal, the posit is meaningless.
I still think that most people don't even know what they actually paid. Like the magician, who distracts you by having you look one way while they put something in their hands.
I have a friend who owns a auto repair shop and said he gives lifetime free alignments because there is no way someone who comes in for an alignment doesn't walk out with a repair bill that more than covers the alignment. But if you ask the people they got a great deal on a free lifetime alignment forgetting to mention how much they spent in repairs!
I still think that most people don't even know what they actually paid. Like the magician, who distracts you by having you look one way while they put something in their hands.
I have a friend who owns a auto repair shop and said he gives lifetime free alignments because there is no way someone who comes in for an alignment doesn't walk out with a repair bill that more than covers the alignment. But if you ask the people they got a great deal on a free lifetime alignment forgetting to mention how much they spent in repairs!
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Yes that is my point. A lot of claims about a great deal but without the actual numbers or including the other items that went into the deal, the posit is meaningless.
I still think that most people don't even know what they actually paid. Like the magician, who distracts you by having you look one way while they put something in their hands.
I have a friend who owns a auto repair shop and said he gives lifetime free alignments because there is no way someone who comes in for an alignment doesn't walk out with a repair bill that more than covers the alignment. But if you ask the people they got a great deal on a free lifetime alignment forgetting to mention how much they spent in repairs!
I still think that most people don't even know what they actually paid. Like the magician, who distracts you by having you look one way while they put something in their hands.
I have a friend who owns a auto repair shop and said he gives lifetime free alignments because there is no way someone who comes in for an alignment doesn't walk out with a repair bill that more than covers the alignment. But if you ask the people they got a great deal on a free lifetime alignment forgetting to mention how much they spent in repairs!
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#23
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Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me.
With the assumption that the MSRP's are close on these cars, if someone posts that they got their car for $1000 under invoice or at dealer cost, how much did they pay?
With the assumption that the MSRP's are close on these cars, if someone posts that they got their car for $1000 under invoice or at dealer cost, how much did they pay?
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MSRP 58,353.00
Sale price 53,250.00
rebate 1500.00
final price 51750.00
Tax 4393.12
doc fee 80.00
Electronic transfer fee 29.00
Lic. fee 464.75
out the door price 56,716.87
2013 GS 350
Sale price 53,250.00
rebate 1500.00
final price 51750.00
Tax 4393.12
doc fee 80.00
Electronic transfer fee 29.00
Lic. fee 464.75
out the door price 56,716.87
2013 GS 350
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You have gotten over 11% off MSRP which is a fairly good chop. Unfortunately you have no trade to offset the sales tax which is the killer for luxury cars.
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I don't really give a rat's a** what other people paid as long as I feel I got a good value for my money. Other people's negotiations have less effect on my life than the Mayan Calendar.
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