2 Coats of 22PLE
01-10-13, 08:58 PM
#46
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
i think you should
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i was asking myself, "D hasn't replied yet"? i value your opinion also. this 22PLE gives you more of a mirror like gloss, IMO it's 2 steps above HB. as posted earlier, i can't comment on the protection yet, but it's very high on the protection scale. the hydrophobic properties surpass that of HB. haven't steered you wrong and i won't... this stuff rocks. HB will always be my 2nd fave
. well if you make up your mind Phil has some @DD, don't forget your discount code. i promise i won't switch any time soon. the 22PLE is it for the duration. i can't wait until the 4 day wait time is over.
.Not as good. Take my word for it. Syd used Hard Body on his Obsidian GS and it looked amazing. I used it on my LP and it shines, but more than that it really just makes the water bead like crazy. It looks great, but with a color like LP it will never bring out the depth. The good thing is I've just gone through 2 days of torrential rains and the car is barely dirty. It's like the dirt won't adhere to the finish. I'm very happy with the Hard Body. Now I'll have to try this new one.
. this 22PLE gives you more of a mirror like gloss, IMO it's 2 steps above HB. as posted earlier, i can't comment on the protection yet, but it's very high on the protection scale. the hydrophobic properties surpass that of HB. haven't steered you wrong and i won't... this stuff rocks. HB will always be my 2nd fave. well if you make up your mind Phil has some @DD, don't forget your discount code. i promise i won't switch any time soon. the 22PLE is it for the duration. i can't wait until the 4 day wait time is over.
01-11-13, 08:07 AM
#48
i was asking myself, "D hasn't replied yet"? i value your opinion also. this 22PLE gives you more of a mirror like gloss, IMO it's 2 steps above HB. as posted earlier, i can't comment on the protection yet, but it's very high on the protection scale. the hydrophobic properties surpass that of HB. haven't steered you wrong and i won't... this stuff rocks. HB will always be my 2nd fave. well if you make up your mind Phil has some @DD, don't forget your discount code. i promise i won't switch any time soon. the 22PLE is it for the duration. i can't wait until the 4 day wait time is over.
. this 22PLE gives you more of a mirror like gloss, IMO it's 2 steps above HB. as posted earlier, i can't comment on the protection yet, but it's very high on the protection scale. the hydrophobic properties surpass that of HB. haven't steered you wrong and i won't... this stuff rocks. HB will always be my 2nd fave. well if you make up your mind Phil has some @DD, don't forget your discount code. i promise i won't switch any time soon. the 22PLE is it for the duration. i can't wait until the 4 day wait time is over. I'm just afraid of the one way ticket of this product. I'm not a pro detailer. Maybe when I find someone that does this professionally. There is a shop near by that always has high end cars in front of it. I may check it out. PS: Wash the **** car, Syd. I know you want to.
Waiting is painful.
01-11-13, 09:04 AM
#49
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
I looked it up on DD and let me tell you Syd, it is so tempting to click "Add to Cart" I'm just afraid of the one way ticket of this product. I'm not a pro detailer. Maybe when I find someone that does this professionally. There is a shop near by that always has high end cars in front of it. I may check it out.
PS: Wash the **** car, Syd. I know you want to. Waiting is painful.
I'm just afraid of the one way ticket of this product. I'm not a pro detailer. Maybe when I find someone that does this professionally. There is a shop near by that always has high end cars in front of it. I may check it out. PS: Wash the **** car, Syd. I know you want to.
Waiting is painful.
. i'll probably give in tomorrow or sunday because it will be in the high 50's and maybe 60. growing weaker by the second. the car has a layer of dust and it's driving me nuts.
01-11-13, 04:21 PM
#50
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
pic taken by Phil@DD right after polishing and before the 22PLE was applied. perfect paint... no scratches or swirls.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76804690@N05/8362123127/http://www.flickr.com/photos/76804690@N05/8362123127/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/76804690@N05/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76804690@N05/8362123127/http://www.flickr.com/photos/76804690@N05/8362123127/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/76804690@N05/, on Flickr
01-11-13, 09:28 PM
#51
01-11-13, 09:51 PM
#52
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
lol... no cut for me. i'm just one of those fanatics that loves clean cars. i should post pics of all my past vehicles. i was like this all the way back when i was given my fathers white/red 67 pontiac GTO. it's raining today, and i must say that my first review of the hydrophobic properties are positive. the beading is much tighter than HB beading. jumped on the highway and noticed only a few tiny drops of water on the hood. i was in the left lane of the Vanwyck under the air train overpass, looked at the hood and the sides of the car via SV mirrors and the car was damn near bone dry. the wife said the beading looked like very tiny bubbles. i would say... buy it even if you wait until spring to apply it. my main concern was that if my brother ****** up my paint that quick with the HB on, then i was going to need stronger protection for that obsidian. as long as i washed it myself it was fine but when he took the car through the car grinders... it was over for the HB. the combo of the stronger soap and those rubber thingies hitting the car. the HB didn't have a chance. get the 22PLE.
01-12-13, 02:55 PM
#54
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
). the wife's car and 22PLE your car and do a comparison. sounds like a plan. he won't be getting any more products for me to test. so replenish away.
01-12-13, 03:06 PM
#55
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
here's a write from the 22PLE ... take a look
http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...me-around.html
and yes that's my car.
and here's the HardBody write up...
http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...tml#post366755
http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...me-around.html
and yes that's my car.
and here's the HardBody write up...
http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/...tml#post366755
Last edited by sydtoosic; 01-12-13 at 03:09 PM.
Tell Phil to get a real camera and give you back all the money you paid him. Seriously though, he should give you some deal for using your car like this.
01-12-13, 03:51 PM
#57
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
. i don't mind paying for excellent service, i like the exposure. he had permission to post the write up.
01-12-13, 08:47 PM
#58
lol... no cut for me. i'm just one of those fanatics that loves clean cars. i should post pics of all my past vehicles. i was like this all the way back when i was given my fathers white/red 67 pontiac GTO. it's raining today, and i must say that my first review of the hydrophobic properties are positive. the beading is much tighter than HB beading. jumped on the highway and noticed only a few tiny drops of water on the hood. i was in the left lane of the Vanwyck under the air train overpass, looked at the hood and the sides of the car via SV mirrors and the car was damn near bone dry. the wife said the beading looked like very tiny bubbles. i would say... buy it even if you wait until spring to apply it. my main concern was that if my brother ****** up my paint that quick with the HB on, then i was going to need stronger protection for that obsidian. as long as i washed it myself it was fine but when he took the car through the car grinders... it was over for the HB. the combo of the stronger soap and those rubber thingies hitting the car. the HB didn't have a chance. get the 22PLE.
I guess I'm still that high school kid at heart because I'm really particular about my cars. I washed my car on Friday. It poured today, so I washed it again this afternoon because I know tomorrow is going to be sunny. I inherited from my dad. He wouldn't even let me put gum wrappers in the ashtrays of his cars growing up.
Hey, Syd, take care of that back. Don't spend too many hours crouching over your computer!
01-12-13, 09:11 PM
#59
Lexus Test Driver
hey V,,, tell the Mrs. i apologize. it wasn't my intention to have her put out a hit on me.. stay with the HB, it's just another great product we have in our arsenal. the gloss level of 22PLE IMO is better than the gloss level of HB. as for protection i can't comment on the comparison. i've read that the protection of 22PLE is pretty high on the charts. it's your call... get it now and hold it or wait till spring. but i have a feeling you're going to make it do what it do. forgot to answer your question. Phil washed with APC and a citrus based shampoo, then the nano skin auto scrub, (better than a clay bar). you can wash the car in the driveway, but the rest has to be done in your garage. after the application and removal of the PLE your car has to stay in your garage for 8-12 hrs. do not subject your car to the elements during that time.
. it wasn't my intention to have her put out a hit on me.. stay with the HB, it's just another great product we have in our arsenal. the gloss level of 22PLE IMO is better than the gloss level of HB. as for protection i can't comment on the comparison. i've read that the protection of 22PLE is pretty high on the charts. it's your call... get it now and hold it or wait till spring. but i have a feeling you're going to make it do what it do. forgot to answer your question. Phil washed with APC and a citrus based shampoo, then the nano skin auto scrub, (better than a clay bar). you can wash the car in the driveway, but the rest has to be done in your garage. after the application and removal of the PLE your car has to stay in your garage for 8-12 hrs. do not subject your car to the elements during that time.Washed her today at a self wash place. In this cold that's my only option.
Btw, we have a rabbit, too. No chinchillas yet.
