sydtoosic

a clean car is a happy car. same here, no eating or drinking, no nothing in dads car. i'm doing good, resisting the urge to wash until tuesday. the back is actually cooperating today, for now... but 10 seconds later all hell can break loose, getting up takes about 2 minutes, walking to the room takes another 5 minutes, mind you i'm hunched over the whole time looking at the floor while i'm walking. the neck is a big problem also. i'll live...

did you take your buckets and gizmos? the chinchilla is actually quite cool. i didn't know those damn things barked. they're nocturnal so the noise he makes at night is ridiculous. you guys don't have to worry about washing, but this damn super soft obsidian paint is a PITA. i can't even wipe dry, i have to blot dry.

that's the results from a great detailer, i just have to maintain it.

Vasili

How did you know? Was there a camera? I did bring my buckets, but I used the high pressure water instead. 35 degree temps made me want to get it done quick. The rim shield will go on in my garage. I'll let you know how that goes...

sydtoosic

we're clean car fanatics, why would you not take your buckets. 35 is pretty cold. well for me anyway, i hate the cold weather. anything below 60 is cold to me. i always fill the buckets with warm water. how many coats of Rim Shield are on your wheels already? 4 should be good for the winter.

Vasili

I brought the buckets, but I didn't think about filling them before hand. I thought i could fill then at the self-wash. I only have one lid, so filling them might have meant spilling them in the car on the way there. That would have sucked big time! I'll pick up another lid from Pepboys (the place I got the buckets) for next time I go there. Got some cold days coming, so it might be a few days tip the next wash.

I'm gonna put on the rim shield tomorrow. 4 coats, eh? No problem.

jtrue28

Syd: If you don't mind me asking, how much did the whole detailing appointment cost you? I know ZERO about operating an orbital machine and would definitely need to have the paint fixed before putting anything like that on. However, I'm not too sure that applying the 22PLE will do much to make the red color "pop". Maintaining a black car is maddening, but the results are worth it. My red car may be glossy, but it won't have the depth, so I'm not sure it's worth my time/money.

sydtoosic

what's good J... Phil charged me $850.00, my paint was jacked (thanx Anthony). and that obsidian as Phil puts it "was a nightmare". you can actually scratch the paint (obsidian) with a MF towel. that's how soft it is. he would correct, wipe, and then have to correct where he wiped. your RR might be more forgiving as far as it not being as soft as the OB. so the less time he spends correcting the less he'll charge. applying the 22PLE to your RR would definitely be beneficial. you will get the same gloss and depth and protection, although it won't be as noticeable as on the OB, unless you look from certain angles. IMO you should have it done. i'm lacking in DA skills also, i have some skills but i wouldn't call myself professional... i do okay. you will have the gloss and pop factor with the 22PLE, not to mention the protection. your car is way easier to maintain than mine. is your paint 2 or 3 stage?

jtrue28

It's not pearl, so probably 2 stage. It is heavily metallic though.

sydtoosic

you're right, pearl paint has more stages which in turn makes it a little more durable. so your 2 stage paint is probably soft... as soft as mine, IDK. if you have an LED flashlight... put the car in the garage and leave the lights off. turn on the flashlight and look at the condition of your paint. the led will pick up most if not all of the imperfections. and you'll know how much correction you need.

*Batman*

Is 22PLE better than Optiguard?

sydtoosic

to be honest that's TBD. they are different coatings... one claims to be better than the other. i've never applied OC 2.0 on my car. the results are basically the same, although one is permanent (OC) and the other is semi-permanent (22PLE). the gloss and hydrophobic properties from 22PLE is amazing... which i believe has surpassed OC 2.0, in terms of durability IDK as of yet. hoping for the best.

Vasili

I'm so thankful that I decided on Riviera Red!

Sounds like obsidian is a bit of a headache...

sydtoosic

yes... be thankful. the obsidian being a bit of a headache is an understatement. like Phil stated, "it's a nightmare". the 5 day waiting period is up tomorrow , now i can give her a bath. i've got my buckets, grit guards, uber wool wash mitts, shampoo, wolfs clean and coat wheel cleaner, wolfs nano shampoo (Phil said the nano shampoo will be fine), 3 bags of MF towels, uber drying towels, waffle weave drying towels, fireman hose connector, foam gun... did i leave anything out. i can't wait.

dseag2

I know you are chomping at the bit. I can't wait to see the final pics tomorrow!

sydtoosic

yes I am my friend, yes I am. Weather permitting, hopefully it will be a good day.

jtrue28

Alright man, I hope you're out there washing it right now. I can probably speak for all of us and say we cannot wait to see the final results.

Thanks!