How Good is The AWD System!
#16
the AWD with Michelin Alpin PA4 on snow is amazing!! We have over 3 foot of snow this year (slightly below normal), & winter is only half way through. The way she drives over snow, puts many trucks & SUV's to shame. Temperature here can go as low as 30 below 0 C (~86 below 0 F)
Having driven Infiniti's AWD system, the Lexus is on par, maybe slightly better for traction, which takes more effort to drift (with traction & stability fully disengage). Lexus AWD is at the very least 30F/70R distribution, so driving with snow mode is not required, which makes it 50/50 distribution & slows transmission shifts.
Edit: 30 below 0 C is (22 below 0 F)
Having driven Infiniti's AWD system, the Lexus is on par, maybe slightly better for traction, which takes more effort to drift (with traction & stability fully disengage). Lexus AWD is at the very least 30F/70R distribution, so driving with snow mode is not required, which makes it 50/50 distribution & slows transmission shifts.
Edit: 30 below 0 C is (22 below 0 F)
#17
Hey folks, wanted to give my few cents as I've had experience with a few cars over the past little while. With respect to how it "goes", the car feels like a tank. It's much better than my dads 4Matic CLS550, and in some ways I actually found it almost as impressive as my mom's LX570 (albeit a totally different car). I have the AWD, but with the cruddy Turanza all-seasons. Surprisingly the Turanza's don't disappoint as much as I thought they would (given my fair-weather experience). The car also seems to go just as well as my wife's EX35, I would suggest even slightly better. With respect to stopping, I don't feel as comfortable as I do in my wife's EX35 (which has pretty weak brakes), but that could also be the Turanza's.
I actually felt guilty driving my car in the snow. Because it felt so much like a tank, I probably wasn't as careful as I should have been. Overall, very happy with my car and looking forward to getting some winter tires down the road.
I actually felt guilty driving my car in the snow. Because it felt so much like a tank, I probably wasn't as careful as I should have been. Overall, very happy with my car and looking forward to getting some winter tires down the road.
#18
Hey folks, wanted to give my few cents as I've had experience with a few cars over the past little while. With respect to how it "goes", the car feels like a tank. It's much better than my dads 4Matic CLS550, and in some ways I actually found it almost as impressive as my mom's LX570 (albeit a totally different car). I have the AWD, but with the cruddy Turanza all-seasons. Surprisingly the Turanza's don't disappoint as much as I thought they would (given my fair-weather experience). The car also seems to go just as well as my wife's EX35, I would suggest even slightly better. With respect to stopping, I don't feel as comfortable as I do in my wife's EX35 (which has pretty weak brakes), but that could also be the Turanza's.
I actually felt guilty driving my car in the snow. Because it felt so much like a tank, I probably wasn't as careful as I should have been. Overall, very happy with my car and looking forward to getting some winter tires down the road.
I actually felt guilty driving my car in the snow. Because it felt so much like a tank, I probably wasn't as careful as I should have been. Overall, very happy with my car and looking forward to getting some winter tires down the road.
#19
With winter tires, the car is very stable & handling is predictable, which leads to over-confidence & even carelessness. Driving in manual mode on Sport+, (down shift to change lanes/high speed turns/decelerate), as well as left foot braking (may take practice) in heavy traffic conditions, provides extra stabilty & control in adverse conditions.
If traction/stability kicks in too much & the vehicle is still stuck, one can always fully disengage & let all 4 wheels claw itself out. The AWD is good enough that it should be able to claw itself out without having to disengage traction/stability.
#20
When snow mode is engaged, power distribution becomes 50F/50R instead of the normal 30F/70R, which results in a loss of power, & increase fuel consumption. Transmission shifts becomes slower, & the engine output is reminiscence of Eco Mode. The trasmission starts off on 2nd gear, when accelerating from a stand-still, usually.
My sales rep called snow mode, "granny mode"
My sales rep called snow mode, "granny mode"
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the AWD with Michelin Alpin PA4 on snow is amazing!! We have over 3 foot of snow this year (slightly below normal), & winter is only half way through. The way she drives over snow, puts many trucks & SUV's to shame. Temperature here can go as low as 30 below 0 C (~86 below 0 F)
Having driven Infiniti's AWD system, the Lexus is on par, maybe slightly better for traction, which takes more effort to drift (with traction & stability fully disengage). Lexus AWD is at the very least 30F/70R distribution, so driving with snow mode is not required, which makes it 50/50 distribution & slows transmission shifts.
Edit: 30 below 0 C is (22 below 0 F)
Having driven Infiniti's AWD system, the Lexus is on par, maybe slightly better for traction, which takes more effort to drift (with traction & stability fully disengage). Lexus AWD is at the very least 30F/70R distribution, so driving with snow mode is not required, which makes it 50/50 distribution & slows transmission shifts.
Edit: 30 below 0 C is (22 below 0 F)
Just wondering what you have your winter tires mounted on? Black steel rims or the stock rims?
Thanks.
#22
Sorry Syd, just realized I never responded here. The only difference I notice with snow mode is that the throttle is more cautious (ie. you have to put more pressure down to go) . I don't think it made a difference to the traction control, and while I think it might have made a slight change to the front/rear split... I couldn't really confirm.
From a standstill, if I was in a "slippery" situation, turning off/on snow mode didn't feel to make much difference (aside from the more conservative throttle).
From a standstill, if I was in a "slippery" situation, turning off/on snow mode didn't feel to make much difference (aside from the more conservative throttle).
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