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Old 08-15-13, 08:56 PM
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I live in NY and came across the current lease promotion for the GS AWD:
2013 GS 350 AWD
$469mo.27mos. 10K miles/year
$3,099due at signing + first payment complimentary
Offer based on MSRP of $56,277 including delivery, processing and handling, plus $700 Acquisition Fee, which is included in the Capitalized Cost.
So I contacted the local dealership and asked them for the sale price, money factor, and residual:
sale price is 52,365.00. The money factor is .000800. The residual is 64%.
When I plug in these numbers in to the lease calculator at RidewithG, the monthly payment is still $90 higher than 469/mo, even after I deduct the $3099 from the cap cost. So what am I missing here? Can someone explain how they can come up with the $469/mo number?
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I'm getting the same as you...$558.93...
Old 08-15-13, 09:32 PM
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is the 469 including tax?

on the other hand, just in case, maybe check with them to make sure the residual value at 64% is with 10k miles/yr
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seems like everyone is leasing. i envy you guys who can get away with a lease. i drive 25,000 miles/year, so it's a no-go for me.
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Originally Posted by rominl
is the 469 including tax?

on the other hand, just in case, maybe check with them to make sure the residual value at 64% is with 10k miles/yr
Even without tax I get $558.93, adding in tax would make it more...

Checked the numbers at 66%, its $518.13, at 68% its $477.36.
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Yeah, I think residual is higher for 27 / 10. It's 72% for the IS for 27 / 10, though that is newer.
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Originally Posted by NewSpace
seems like everyone is leasing. i envy you guys who can get away with a lease. i drive 25,000 miles/year, so it's a no-go for me.
with that kind of mileage you are far better off buying anyway
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Thanks everyone for your input.

It seems they are doing some creative leasing terms. I went in to test drive the GS, and the person I previously contacted was on her day off. So I asked the same question about sale price, residual and MF to the other sales guy, and he comes with completely different sale price and residual - and that's from the same dealership. When I asked them about the discrepancy, they told me that they just put the numbers into the computer and it comes out that way and couldn't explain why. When I told them either set of numbers did not come out to a $469/mo payment on my lease calculator, they said my lease calculator was wrong - by more than $90/mo! The dealership is New Country Lexus of Westport, CT.

Also, does anyone know whether the current "Golden Opportunity" lease sale can be combined with the $2500 lease cash back? I asked them to combine the two, and they said I can either have one or the other, but not both.

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Well, at least it's an error in your favor...
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
Well, at least it's an error in your favor...
that's how i think about it too

but on the other hand those are some pretty sorry lazy salesperson. if they can't even get the numbers to fall into place, how am i going to trust anything they say? very disappointing. i would just ask them to bring out one of their finance person to explain

those online calculators are actually quite accurate. bankrate one is always the one i use. for my previous leases, i actually got it accurate down to the dollar (with and without tax). cents were off but that's close enough
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Are you using the $2500 rebate as cap cost reduction?
The add does not include taxes and fees..
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Originally Posted by rominl
that's how i think about it too

but on the other hand those are some pretty sorry lazy salesperson. if they can't even get the numbers to fall into place, how am i going to trust anything they say? very disappointing. i would just ask them to bring out one of their finance person to explain

those online calculators are actually quite accurate. bankrate one is always the one i use. for my previous leases, i actually got it accurate down to the dollar (with and without tax). cents were off but that's close enough
The salespeople don't surprise me. In my experience in general they aren't very bright, and they don't actually understand leasing very well (to their credit, its complex...but it is a big part of what they do). I've even had the finance people make errors and I have had to correct them. Sometimes I think they were trying to pad the deal, sometimes I think they just calculated it wrong. I've had payments calculated by dealers over $100 more per month than they should be.

The online calculator can't be wrong...its just a calculator. Its as correct as the data thats put into it.

My fear for the OP would be he would get 90% to the end of the deal and then suddenly it would be $90 more per month. I had that happen on the GS, I knew they were wrong...and they caught it at the end (they were using the Premium residual on my Luxury lease). Since I knew that would likely happen I proceeded.
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