If the GS is so good, why are sales low?
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Not really. I replied quite a ways back, but have been reading and enjoying the discussion all along.
After some great responses, I think that the availability of the ES in the showroom and a lack of awareness for the GS are the most likely culprits. Among "enthusiasts", I have had so many, well enthusiastic complements on my GS AWD F Sport it's been amazing - they seem to be very aware of the car from all the positive coverage in magazines etc. So, I were the King of Lexus, I would have them advertise the GS more and add to the line up - e.g. a 300h along with the forthcoming F Sport.
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Not really. I replied quite a ways back, but have been reading and enjoying the discussion all along.
After some great responses, I think that the availability of the ES in the showroom and a lack of awareness for the GS are the most likely culprits. Among "enthusiasts", I have had so many, well enthusiastic complements on my GS AWD F Sport it's been amazing - they seem to be very aware of the car from all the positive coverage in magazines etc. So, I were the King of Lexus, I would have them advertise the GS more and add to the line up - e.g. a 300h along with the forthcoming F Sport.
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Not really. I replied quite a ways back, but have been reading and enjoying the discussion all along.
After some great responses, I think that the availability of the ES in the showroom and a lack of awareness for the GS are the most likely culprits. Among "enthusiasts", I have had so many, well enthusiastic complements on my GS AWD F Sport it's been amazing - they seem to be very aware of the car from all the positive coverage in magazines etc. So, I were the King of Lexus, I would have them advertise the GS more and add to the line up - e.g. a 300h along with the forthcoming F Sport.
After some great responses, I think that the availability of the ES in the showroom and a lack of awareness for the GS are the most likely culprits. Among "enthusiasts", I have had so many, well enthusiastic complements on my GS AWD F Sport it's been amazing - they seem to be very aware of the car from all the positive coverage in magazines etc. So, I were the King of Lexus, I would have them advertise the GS more and add to the line up - e.g. a 300h along with the forthcoming F Sport.
a. Only 36 MPG? My Prius gets 50 MPG!
b. Only 9s 0-60? My Corolla is faster!
I think 2015/6 model has a lot of potential:
1. refreshed exterior with full predator grille as well as interior/equipment updates.
2. refreshed engines with 2.0t and new tech 2GR-FSE with possibly more hp.
2. GS-F with V8.
GS-F would not sell great numbers but it would add to the prestige.
Only question is if 2.0t is actually cheaper to produce than 2GR-FSE, or new version of 2GR-FSE with all those new tech coming like new D4-S, VVT-iE, start/stop, etc, etc.
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Not really. I replied quite a ways back, but have been reading and enjoying the discussion all along.
After some great responses, I think that the availability of the ES in the showroom and a lack of awareness for the GS are the most likely culprits. Among "enthusiasts", I have had so many, well enthusiastic complements on my GS AWD F Sport it's been amazing - they seem to be very aware of the car from all the positive coverage in magazines etc. So, I were the King of Lexus, I would have them advertise the GS more and add to the line up - e.g. a 300h along with the forthcoming F Sport.
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#259
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You guys know they sell a GS250 with that puny 2.5l 6 in Japan right? They'll never bring it to the US, it's pointless. If you want a cheaper car you go with the IS or ES.
I think the GS is selling just fine now, at least, that's what my eyes are telling me during highway and local drives over the past few months. The Infiniti Q50, which was also a rarity on the road previously, is now more ubiquitous as well. I wonder how many people took their refund check to the dealer as a downpayment...
I think the GS is selling just fine now, at least, that's what my eyes are telling me during highway and local drives over the past few months. The Infiniti Q50, which was also a rarity on the road previously, is now more ubiquitous as well. I wonder how many people took their refund check to the dealer as a downpayment...
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You guys know they sell a GS250 with that puny 2.5l 6 in Japan right? They'll never bring it to the US, it's pointless. If you want a cheaper car you go with the IS or ES.
I think the GS is selling just fine now, at least, that's what my eyes are telling me during highway and local drives over the past few months. The Infiniti Q50, which was also a rarity on the road previously, is now more ubiquitous as well. I wonder how many people took their refund check to the dealer as a downpayment...
I think the GS is selling just fine now, at least, that's what my eyes are telling me during highway and local drives over the past few months. The Infiniti Q50, which was also a rarity on the road previously, is now more ubiquitous as well. I wonder how many people took their refund check to the dealer as a downpayment...
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I am shocked this thread still has legs. What are you guys still talking about?
In Florida, the GS sells well. I know because I sell them. I know because I see them everywhere. I'm sure the car sells fairly well across the country because we would have heard about it if they weren't. When there is a surplus, dealers get the opportunity to get more. That ain't happening. We're begging for more GS350's to sell.
This thread has long lived past it's usefulness.
I am shocked this thread still has legs. What are you guys still talking about?
In Florida, the GS sells well. I know because I sell them. I know because I see them everywhere. I'm sure the car sells fairly well across the country because we would have heard about it if they weren't. When there is a surplus, dealers get the opportunity to get more. That ain't happening. We're begging for more GS350's to sell.
This thread has long lived past it's usefulness.
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I come back to this site every 2 or 3 days.
I am shocked this thread still has legs. What are you guys still talking about?
In Florida, the GS sells well. I know because I sell them. I know because I see them everywhere. I'm sure the car sells fairly well across the country because we would have heard about it if they weren't. When there is a surplus, dealers get the opportunity to get more. That ain't happening. We're begging for more GS350's to sell.
This thread has long lived past it's usefulness.
I am shocked this thread still has legs. What are you guys still talking about?
In Florida, the GS sells well. I know because I sell them. I know because I see them everywhere. I'm sure the car sells fairly well across the country because we would have heard about it if they weren't. When there is a surplus, dealers get the opportunity to get more. That ain't happening. We're begging for more GS350's to sell.
This thread has long lived past it's usefulness.
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Because Lexus is not flexible as German manufactures, I was looking for RWD GS F SPORT to lease it and couldn't find any in New York area, custom order 4-5 month dealer said and they can't tell how much it will cost me when car arrives because they can't lock in the price, this is biggest down side of Toyota corp.
I went with bmw and ordered my car 535i M Sport and I got great deal on it same or better than GS FSPORT deals.
I went with bmw and ordered my car 535i M Sport and I got great deal on it same or better than GS FSPORT deals.
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Because Lexus is not flexible as German manufactures, I was looking for RWD GS F SPORT to lease it and couldn't find any in New York area, custom order 4-5 month dealer said and they can't tell how much it will cost me when car arrives because they can't lock in the price, this is biggest down side of Toyota corp.
I went with bmw and ordered my car 535i M Sport and I got great deal on it same or better than GS FSPORT deals.
I went with bmw and ordered my car 535i M Sport and I got great deal on it same or better than GS FSPORT deals.
#266
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The 2013+ RWD Msport packaged cars that have the PASSIVE Msport Suspension handle great.
I wrote a review here based on my experience with my 2012 and 2013 cars.
If u do a search on bimmerfest forums, u will see lots of great reviews with cars that have this suspension option.
It features stiffer/lower springs, thicker antiroll bars, etc.
My 2012 handled like a boat and i couldnt wait to get rod of it.
I wrote a review here based on my experience with my 2012 and 2013 cars.
If u do a search on bimmerfest forums, u will see lots of great reviews with cars that have this suspension option.
It features stiffer/lower springs, thicker antiroll bars, etc.
My 2012 handled like a boat and i couldnt wait to get rod of it.
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It sounds like you did pretty good. The 535i is a little quicker and so easy to modify to actual make fast if you want to. It's not going to handle like the GS F-Sport (sounds crazy to say that) but it's a very capable, solid handling luxury sports car with class and great creature comforts.
The 2013+ RWD Msport packaged cars that have the PASSIVE Msport Suspension handle great.
I wrote a review here based on my experience with my 2012 and 2013 cars.
If u do a search on bimmerfest forums, u will see lots of great reviews with cars that have this suspension option.
It features stiffer/lower springs, thicker antiroll bars, etc.
My 2012 handled like a boat and i couldnt wait to get rod of it.
I wrote a review here based on my experience with my 2012 and 2013 cars.
If u do a search on bimmerfest forums, u will see lots of great reviews with cars that have this suspension option.
It features stiffer/lower springs, thicker antiroll bars, etc.
My 2012 handled like a boat and i couldnt wait to get rod of it.
But i really wanted RWD GS FSPORT with ML sound system over bimmer, because i know bmw owners has lots of electrical and mechanical problems frequent visites to Service dep,
Anyway it's covered under warranty i don't care. I hope my bimmer will be reliable so i'm not gonna waste my time at dealerships.
As soon as i get it i'll get coded! Thats one of the features you cant do on GS.
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Because Lexus is not flexible as German manufactures, I was looking for RWD GS F SPORT to lease it and couldn't find any in New York area, custom order 4-5 month dealer said and they can't tell how much it will cost me when car arrives because they can't lock in the price, this is biggest down side of Toyota corp.
I went with bmw and ordered my car 535i M Sport and I got great deal on it same or better than GS FSPORT deals.
I went with bmw and ordered my car 535i M Sport and I got great deal on it same or better than GS FSPORT deals.
I went as far as contacting Lexus corp in regards to this issue.
If Lexus puts in a new motor in the GS, i will most likely get it once my lease is up. I would need to go down south to The Carolinas or Florida.
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I come back to this site every 2 or 3 days.
I am shocked this thread still has legs. What are you guys still talking about?
In Florida, the GS sells well. I know because I sell them. I know because I see them everywhere. I'm sure the car sells fairly well across the country because we would have heard about it if they weren't. When there is a surplus, dealers get the opportunity to get more. That ain't happening. We're begging for more GS350's to sell.
This thread has long lived past it's usefulness.
I am shocked this thread still has legs. What are you guys still talking about?
In Florida, the GS sells well. I know because I sell them. I know because I see them everywhere. I'm sure the car sells fairly well across the country because we would have heard about it if they weren't. When there is a surplus, dealers get the opportunity to get more. That ain't happening. We're begging for more GS350's to sell.
This thread has long lived past it's usefulness.
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#270
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Isn't it strange that now the consolation of a 5 series owner is :
" If we modify our 5 series suspension, maybe perhaps arguably it may handle almost as well as a bone stock GS????? (hopeful emoticon)"
How the world has been turned on its head.
" If we modify our 5 series suspension, maybe perhaps arguably it may handle almost as well as a bone stock GS????? (hopeful emoticon)"
How the world has been turned on its head.
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