yeah, 6sp are great

 

I've never had this happen with any Toyota Lexus nav system. Have you checked your route settings and the speed limits it's using to calculate the routes?

As for the "best route" no nav system has the benefit if experience or judgement. It's choosing a route based on distance, speed limits, etc as known to it. I'm in WV right now and although I know the way I always set the nav on a destination anyways. It always wants to make a bunch of turns when I get close I know aren't the best way...but it doesn't know. If I didn't know where I was going at least I would get there.

I'm here in our new Jeep and even it's vaulted Garmin nav, "king of the navs" does the same thing

 

Which setting do you have it set to? Shortest distance?

I dont know how to explain it, It wont give me the best route, it always givea me the longest one instead. It make me circle around. It also tell me to turn where there is no turn.

Tried the Drive Assist a few days ago, what a load of CRAP, the guy asked me what I was looking for, I told him TGI FRIDAYS, he said ok, it is now in you NAVIGATION so just follow it.

 

LOL, what do you expect the guy to do? You told him you wanted directions to the closest TGI Friday's...so he pulled that up and sent it to your navigation system so it could guide you. What would you have preferred him to do? Thats exactly what the service is supposed to do.

I have it set to fastest route. The issue is "shortest distance", the shortest distance is very commonly not the fastest route...its the distance that is shortest in miles. What are your speed limits set to?

 

You guys are missing the point with the downshift in sport mode. This is exactly how I drive when I race my 5 speed 89 supra and how I ride my 2006 Kawasaki ZX6R motorcycle. This type of downshifting helps keep you in the power band of the car to accelerate out of corners particularly on a race track but its a bit much on the streets. I still love the way it downshifts and upshift I just hate the fact that it has too many gears. Also great for engine breaking.

 

I hit 1,000 miles within 4 days of purchase. It's now 3 weeks old, I am about to hit 2K. I keep crossing Washington State for business. It's the third Lexus in my driveway, by far it’s the best. I love the car, the fit & finish, and the handling. I am 6'4" 240ish lbs, the seats are amazing. I have the all-wheel drive, so I only have 6 speeds. I drive most of the time in normal, sometimes economy on the highway with cruise control. So far, my mileage is averaging over 25 mpg. I will grab my truck to run to Home Depot/Lowes, but always the GS to cruise. I have yet to let my 18 year old drive it.

 

Thanks I will chek my settings, where would I find that ?

Well, I thought it works like OnStar, which will actually step by step will guide you, I can find the closes TGI myself and loaded they the Bung APP

 

The manual is a beautiful thing Its in the navigation settings, and when you program in a destination you are given the choice of 3 routes. Simply select the fastest route.

OnStar works like that because its designed for cars that don't have navigation systems, and when they do they don't have the ability to take control of your navigation system. Why would you want some person to give you turn by turn directions over the phone when you have a navigation system that is designed to do that? The Enform operator finds the destination for you and then downloads it to your nav system for you while you're driving, and the nav system directs you. Its MORE advanced than OnStar because OnStar doesn't have that link between the operator and the technology in your car.

Sure you can look it up yourself, the whole point is that theres an operator there to do that for you so you're not fumbling with apps while you're driving. In this day and age we can do all of these things by ourselves...what would you expect enform to do for you that you could not also do for yourself?

I think your expectations are at issue here. Something is not a poor system because you're not willing to learn how it works.

 

I agree to disagree. Nav sometimes is glitchy and turn by turn from an operater would help.

 

Well it doesn't work that way. Why would they pay an operator to give you turn by turn directions when your car has a navigation system that is designed to give you turn by turn directions? Personally I don't want to stay on the phone with some shmoe for 35 minutes while I'm driving someplace anyways. "Now turn right up ahead...good job!"

As for your nav system being glitchy, I'm willing to bet a lot of the issue is lack of understanding about how the system operates and how the features and settings work. None of my Lexus systems have ever been glitchy in that way. The Garmin nav unit in my 2011 Jeep and the one in my new 2014 Jeep are a little glitchy, but as I have adjusted the settings its improved, and I have every confidence that once I get the 2014 set up right it will work great, as it did in the 2011.

BUT...I have taken the time to read the manual and understand the settings and how they affect the system's operation. If you're not willing to do that its user error. I also think a lot of this is that you have decided that you hate the car, and thus any challenge you come across is automatically going to be reason to complain about it not being good enough. If thats the case, do all of us a favor and get rid of it.

 

Sorry dude, but I find the transmission much better behaved than the 8 speed one in my BMW. And on par with the 8 speed one in my Porsche. I was remarking to my wife the other day at how well behaved this transmission is. it holds gears when it needs to, and releases them when it doesn't.

Perhaps stop driving in Sport Mode.

 

perhaps you right, it is my first Lexus. But I have had many other car with NAV . Some were ok some were Excellent. IMO NAV should be easy to understand, read and follow, if you have to read and "learn how to understand the system" it is not user friendly there for it is not refined. just my .2c

I dont hate the car, I dont like the transmission. Other than that I am ok wih all other imperfections. I guess my expectations are too high when it comes to Luxury vehicles. I expect things thing to be certain way, because it is doable.

I have returned cars to the dealership before, because I simply hated them. They were also "Luxury sedans, so to speak", so yeah I am picky ,but hell, I am paying $50,000 I deserve to be picky

 

But theres always a learning curve when adapting to something new. It is easy to understand, you just have to take some time with the menus and options and figure out what you can do and can't do. I find the system very user friendly and refined. I don't see what is complex about the system at all. Like I said before, I am still adapting to the new uConnect system in my Jeep, its complicated, it has a lot of features and functions and I am still getting it right...but I'm not posting on Jeep forums whining about the system and how it doesn't operate exactly how I want it to out of the box. Things that can do a lot often are more complicated. Look at Android vs iOS, Android is more complicated but also more capable. If you want an out of the box experience, get iOS. If you want a customizable experience that can do more with a steeper learning curve, Android.

If you aren't willing to take some responsibility for learning how the system works thats your decision, but we don't want to listen to you complain about it if thats the case...lets put it that way. Your Lexus dealer even has a technology specialist who will help you realize the system's potential one on one.

I think you should return this car and buy what you obviously want and prefer, an Acura.

I think another important thing to understand is that $50,000 is not a lot of money for a car anymore. $50,000 is a Chevy Tahoe 4x4 BASE. My Jeep was $50,000. A loaded Honda Odyssey is nearly $50,000. Its not a Rolls Royce, its a midlevel luxury sedan...its not perfect and its not going to be the most incredible car that ever rolled down the road in every respect. What it is is an excellent car that is best in class in many ways. If all you're going to do is complain, and thats all you've done here, you should get rid of the car.

 

perhaps you right, it is my first Lexus. But I have had many other car with NAV . Some were ok some were Excellent. IMO NAV should be easy to understand, read and follow, if you have to read and "learn how to understand the system" it is not user friendly there for it is not refined. just my .2c

I have returned car to the dealership before, because I truly hated them. I am not returning this one.

I expect perfection when It comes to "Luxury cars", they should be user friendly and easy to operate. SO yeah I am picky, but Hell, I deserve to be picky, I am paying $50,000 for it.

 

Have had mine downtown several times and always used nav. Never an issue. Check your settings.