Difference between 13, 14, 15 ?
#31
And yes, the SiriusXM traffic service is too limited in it's coverage and adds to your monthly SiriusXM subscription price.
HD (Hybrid Digital) is broadcast by local radio stations as side-carries to their main analog signals from ground-based transmitters. It is not high definition.
#32
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To be clear, they're saying the '15 uses HD radio service to get traffic data to put on the navigation screen. The 2013 does have HD radio for listening to radio stations but uses SiriusXM satellite radio to get traffic data.
And yes, the SiriusXM traffic service is too limited in it's coverage and adds to your monthly SiriusXM subscription price.
HD (Hybrid Digital) is broadcast by local radio stations as side-carries to their main analog signals from ground-based transmitters. It is not high definition.
And yes, the SiriusXM traffic service is too limited in it's coverage and adds to your monthly SiriusXM subscription price.
HD (Hybrid Digital) is broadcast by local radio stations as side-carries to their main analog signals from ground-based transmitters. It is not high definition.
With XM traffic you always will have traffic data where ever you go but it is limited to big highways and interstates and it sometimes kinda slow to update. But you do get traffic where no radio stations are nearby. Xm Traffic requires a fee but fee can be negotiated.
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In 2015 Canada, additionally to the new navigation system, the Luxury Package gains
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
- Linear Espresso Wood Trim
I found a brand new 2014 that is advertised $250 below a brand new 2015. The 2014 is in the showroom with shop wear (i.e. wrinkled leather from people getting in and out, minor scuffs, dings, and scratches.)
No one will buy the 2014 if it is only a few hundreds less than the 2015 (with incentives for the 2015). How much should I be offering for the new 2014? I know the 2014 is a loser for the dealership, and they have another 2014 base model too.
The 2015 is $58,000 - $6,000 incentives.
The 2014 is $52,000. It is September now.
I want to thank you guys again for all the buying and ownership information!
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
- Linear Espresso Wood Trim
I found a brand new 2014 that is advertised $250 below a brand new 2015. The 2014 is in the showroom with shop wear (i.e. wrinkled leather from people getting in and out, minor scuffs, dings, and scratches.)
No one will buy the 2014 if it is only a few hundreds less than the 2015 (with incentives for the 2015). How much should I be offering for the new 2014? I know the 2014 is a loser for the dealership, and they have another 2014 base model too.
The 2015 is $58,000 - $6,000 incentives.
The 2014 is $52,000. It is September now.
I want to thank you guys again for all the buying and ownership information!
Last edited by Eis; 09-07-15 at 12:23 PM.
#34
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In 2015 Canada, additionally to the new navigation system, the Luxury Package gains
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
- Linear Espresso Wood Trim
I found a brand new 2014 that is advertised $250 below a brand new 2015. The 2014 is in the showroom with shop wear (i.e. wrinkled leather from people getting in and out, minor scuffs, dings, and scratches.)
No one will buy the 2014 if it is only a few hundreds less than the 2015 (with incentives for the 2015). How much should I be offering for the new 2014? I know the 2014 is a loser for the dealership, and they have another 2014 base model too.
The 2015 is $58,000 - $6,000 incentives.
The 2014 is $52,000. It is September now.
I want to thank you guys again for all the buying and ownership information!
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
- Linear Espresso Wood Trim
I found a brand new 2014 that is advertised $250 below a brand new 2015. The 2014 is in the showroom with shop wear (i.e. wrinkled leather from people getting in and out, minor scuffs, dings, and scratches.)
No one will buy the 2014 if it is only a few hundreds less than the 2015 (with incentives for the 2015). How much should I be offering for the new 2014? I know the 2014 is a loser for the dealership, and they have another 2014 base model too.
The 2015 is $58,000 - $6,000 incentives.
The 2014 is $52,000. It is September now.
I want to thank you guys again for all the buying and ownership information!
For the 2014 you can get it for $47-48,000
#35
I would assume the same $6K off that they are doing on the 2015 plus at least $2-3K off for it being a year older and having some minimal wear and tear. There really is no mileage on it , so if the wear and tear is bad then make them fix it.
#36
After waiting months to learn what I already knew (that the '16 GS is nothing I'd ever want), today I traded my '13 F Sport for a '15 and as expected, virtually all of the nits I had about the '13 have been squashed.
Big Wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and I thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: FAR better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: my '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what I want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable Mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the F Sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
Big Wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and I thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: FAR better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: my '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what I want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable Mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the F Sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
#37
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after waiting months to learn what i already knew (that the '16 gs is nothing i'd ever want), today i traded my '13 f sport for a '15 and as expected, virtually all of the nits i had about the '13 have been squashed.
Big wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and i thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: Far better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: My '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what i want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the f sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
Big wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and i thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: Far better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: My '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what i want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the f sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
#39
After waiting months to learn what I already knew (that the '16 GS is nothing I'd ever want), today I traded my '13 F Sport for a '15 and as expected, virtually all of the nits I had about the '13 have been squashed.
Big Wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and I thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: FAR better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: my '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what I want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable Mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the F Sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
Big Wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and I thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: FAR better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: my '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what I want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable Mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the F Sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
#40
#41
Lexus Champion
The car navi still isn't as good as my phone, but mostly tolerable.
#43
thats a good start, but how good is it at recognizing your voice in the first place???
#44
After waiting months to learn what I already knew (that the '16 GS is nothing I'd ever want), today I traded my '13 F Sport for a '15 and as expected, virtually all of the nits I had about the '13 have been squashed.
Big Wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and I thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: FAR better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: my '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what I want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable Mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the F Sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
Big Wins:
Double pane glass (noticed this within the first freeway mile...and I thought the old car was quiet).
Next-gen nav: FAR better; it might even compete with my phone for a year or two.
Backup camera display now inspires confidence in a way fixed grid displays can't.
Finished trunk with a properly balanced trunk lid: my '13 trunk lid was a joke; it even hit me in the head this morning as a last act of defiance.
Ventilated seats now do what I want without dealer reprogramming and the switchology is much improved.
Honorable Mentions::
Exhaust note is definitely changed, perhaps a bit more refined-sounding.
Power mirrors cool, but largely irrelevant to me.
I could live without the F Sport badge on the trunk.
I haven't driven enough to have an opinion re: 6 vs. 8 speed trans, but the drive home was certainly no disappointment.
Still one of the best cars you can own...maybe the best practical sports sedan there is.
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