No Mark Levinson- deal breaker?
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I think that only shows that the car u want is available in the area, not at the particular dealer. Best to call them and ask, u don't want to waste gas and time for nothing.
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Hence again why I suggested checking the dealer websites!
They do list out their inventory... with options. Click view inventory on most pages for Longo, Keyes, Tustin, Westminster, etc...
They do list out their inventory... with options. Click view inventory on most pages for Longo, Keyes, Tustin, Westminster, etc...
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In Houston dealers don't list their own inventory. You get directed to a Lexus site that shows inventory for all area dealers combined. I guess the local dealers group does that because they all trade with each other. I find that different big markets vary whether they show dealer inventories or not.
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Correct me if i am wrong but i think you get more speakers in the ML system and you get less in the non ML system.
You wont get big Bass in either system but what you will get is better quality sound at mid to high volume on the ML equiped GS.
Another thing to think about is.... on the ML system you can play DVD movies and have the system play in TRUE Dolby Surround Sound which sounds great! I think the non ML will only play simulated surround. And the ML might be able to play DTS dvd audio, people correct me i am wrong, i have not tried this yet though. l know my Lexus LS with ML i use to own played DTS Audio and it sounded spectacular.
You wont get big Bass in either system but what you will get is better quality sound at mid to high volume on the ML equiped GS.
Another thing to think about is.... on the ML system you can play DVD movies and have the system play in TRUE Dolby Surround Sound which sounds great! I think the non ML will only play simulated surround. And the ML might be able to play DTS dvd audio, people correct me i am wrong, i have not tried this yet though. l know my Lexus LS with ML i use to own played DTS Audio and it sounded spectacular.
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Doesn't the GS ML system have like 800watts, whereas the non-ML system has 350 watts. That is a substantial increase in power.
I never had ML in any of my GS cars, but I have it in my GX. It's not really worth the extra $2K they want to add on for it.
I never had ML in any of my GS cars, but I have it in my GX. It's not really worth the extra $2K they want to add on for it.
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In Houston dealers don't list their own inventory. You get directed to a Lexus site that shows inventory for all area dealers combined. I guess the local dealers group does that because they all trade with each other. I find that different big markets vary whether they show dealer inventories or not.
And oh yea, the DVD surround with ML is really good.
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I feel ML is overrated in every model except maybe the LS.
I had ML in a '08 GS and '12 ES and I wasn't impressed at all unless you play DVD-A discs which really not many people do..
The system in the GS sounds very nice.
You want a good optional sound system?
Buy a A8 with B&O.Now that's a sound system.
I had ML in a '08 GS and '12 ES and I wasn't impressed at all unless you play DVD-A discs which really not many people do..
The system in the GS sounds very nice.
You want a good optional sound system?
Buy a A8 with B&O.Now that's a sound system.
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I noticed that the stock system in the 2IS was well beyond the stock system in the 3IS and probably much closer the the ML in the 3IS. I think Lexus is skimping on stock systems more so now than in the past; probably to increase sales of the ML option.
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I find it interesting that some here state the B&O system sounds better than the ML when the great majority of comparisons rate the ML higher.
I've also owned a 2012 non-ML IS and a 2014 ML equipped IS, and the sound quality of the ML is much better (in my opinion).
I would not purchase a new Lexus without the ML system.
I've also owned a 2012 non-ML IS and a 2014 ML equipped IS, and the sound quality of the ML is much better (in my opinion).
I would not purchase a new Lexus without the ML system.
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I find the Mark Levinson system in my 2014 GS very good and i would not buy one without it. I got a 2013 GS loaner without ML and i notice a big difference in quality and sound positioning. I am **** with my audio systems and my last car had a built Alpine audio system which Wowed anyone who heard it. What i did notice is sat radio sounded better on the NON Mark Levinson system than the one with the ML system.
Re: the B&O system, I had it in my Audi S5. It was okay but nowhere near the quality of the ML system in the GS. But then, it only cost an additional $900. In an A6 or A7, it is an additional $6,000, so it should be great. It is even more expensive in an A8, so it should sound like Sting is sitting on your lap singing.
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Ditto. I drove a GS loaner without ML until my GS F Sport arrived. Sat radio is better on non-ML but MP3 is much better on ML. I love the sound of the ML in my GS. It would be a deal-breaker for me.
Re: the B&O system, I had it in my Audi S5. It was okay but nowhere near the quality of the ML system in the GS. But then, it only cost an additional $900. In an A6 or A7, it is an additional $6,000, so it should be great. It is even more expensive in an A8, so it should sound like Sting is sitting on your lap singing.
Re: the B&O system, I had it in my Audi S5. It was okay but nowhere near the quality of the ML system in the GS. But then, it only cost an additional $900. In an A6 or A7, it is an additional $6,000, so it should be great. It is even more expensive in an A8, so it should sound like Sting is sitting on your lap singing.