PirelliRC

You are from Maryland ? Im not biased towards Pirellis, some people swear by a brand and refuse to try anything else and say its the best, however if its one thing that ive tried a lot of its tires. I would get a nail in my tire once a week, and i never patch or get used ones because of a bad blowout i once had so i just buy a new tire. So im eager to hear your thoughts on the Toyos after a good test drive. I would let you your drive my car to compare if we were near, but in all honesty these P7s are a thrill to drive on. Besides the comfort and smoothness, it also grips the pavement very well so your acceleration is right on point and your vehicle isnt struggling to take off from a stop, it put the power down good.

SW17LS

Yup. If you want to drive cross country, come on along! I tend to be a Michelin guy, but I'm not averse to other brands. Never had Pirellis, but I've had Bridgestones I liked and didn't like. I did have a set of Toyos on my old 03 ES I wasn't thrilled with.

My main issue with these will be if they will stay smooth and quiet throughout their life.

SW17LS

Drove the car today about 80 miles round trip on the highway. Very happy with the tires. The disconnected feeling I was having on the highway is either gone or I'm adapted to it. Tires are very smooth, very well balanced and very quiet. I'm confident in saying that the tires are indeed softer riding and quieter than the Michelins when they were new, I think the Michelins still handled a little better but thats a tradeoff I'm happy to make.

The test will be if they will stay quiet as they age.

SW17LS

I'm about 500 miles into ownership of the Toyos, and I'm a little dubious. I don't know if its my imagination or what, but they don't seem as quiet as they did when they were first mounted. Seems crazy to me that they could become louder in just 500 miles, and I'm wondering if it could just be my imagination?

On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?

I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.

PirelliRC

are you able to return them after 500 miles ?

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

I'm going with Michelin Primacy MXM4's but in my area,they're back ordered for a couple of weeks.

SW17LS

Yeah the tire shop forward mileage my invoice. So I only have like 150 miles on them according to the invoice. The trial is 45 days or 500 miles.

bclexus

I have always (always) felt that brand new tires gave me the impression of being smoother and softer for the first hundred miles or so. It was like the little rubber **** gave some aid to make them seem that way, and I always wondered if the tread had oils that soon wore away. Nowadays it's common for tire makers impregnate the rubber with special compounds (e.g. silica) to enhance performance, which may be traction related or appearance related.

For normal road use I have never found a better tire than Michelin.

SW17LS

I'm driving the Jeep today, but I'll see what I think when I drive the Lexus again tomorrow.

I'd say worst case I feel the Toyos at this point sound a lot like the Michelins. Quiet but they don't seem quieter to me anymore. All in all not the end of the world, I just worry that they will get louder as they age.

bclexus

I've never known a tire to not get louder as they wear...simply due to less tread depth to channel, cushion and absorb. However, some tires do tend to get louder quicker than others...and I suspect this is what you are concerned about since you don't have any past experience with Toyo tires, and the only way to determine just how quickly they will get louder is to continue to own them and wear them down.

darylrsv4

iTrader: (2)

I'm a huge fan of Hankooks but I also don't have to worry about an all season tire. In the dry they are hard to beat.

SW17LS

I do actually have experience with Toyo tires, one set of Proxes TPT I put on my 2003 ES at repeated urgings from people online that they were just as good as the Michelin MXV4 (Plus at that time). They got TERRIBLY loud as they aged, but I was unhappy with their noise level from day one, which I'm not with the Versados. Plus that was 10 years ago, so I'm not set on holding that against Toyo.

SW17LS

I think I'm just nuts. Drove it again today after having driven the Jeep yesterday, I thought they were very quiet again lol.

bclexus

Well, Hells Bells - I knew that...

SW17LS

Haha. This has happened to me throughout my Lexus ownership. When you drive them every day and don't have anything to compare them to their refinement sort of starts to seem ordinary. Then when you spend time in something else and get back into the Lexus it really wows you again. I think that may be what was happening.