4GS Tire Thread
#16
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It certainly is not the only criteria, or even the most important criteria, but it is a criteria. Any of these tires are going to be dependable and safe, so its not like one is choosing an unsafe tire over a safe tire because they like the looks of the unsafe tire more. If they hadn't been out of stock I would have gotten the Pirellis, but since they were out of stock I figured I'd try these and if I didn't like them, return them for the Pirellis.
The main reason I had ranked the Pirellis over these in my list was that the Pirellis have so many positive reviews and the Toyos, while what reviews there are are 5 star, are new and aren't as widely available as the Pirellis...so much fewer reviews.
I wish you lived here, I'd love to drive yours on the Pirellis to compare.
The main reason I had ranked the Pirellis over these in my list was that the Pirellis have so many positive reviews and the Toyos, while what reviews there are are 5 star, are new and aren't as widely available as the Pirellis...so much fewer reviews.
I wish you lived here, I'd love to drive yours on the Pirellis to compare.
#17
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Yup. If you want to drive cross country, come on along! I tend to be a Michelin guy, but I'm not averse to other brands. Never had Pirellis, but I've had Bridgestones I liked and didn't like. I did have a set of Toyos on my old 03 ES I wasn't thrilled with.
My main issue with these will be if they will stay smooth and quiet throughout their life.
My main issue with these will be if they will stay smooth and quiet throughout their life.
#18
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Drove the car today about 80 miles round trip on the highway. Very happy with the tires. The disconnected feeling I was having on the highway is either gone or I'm adapted to it. Tires are very smooth, very well balanced and very quiet. I'm confident in saying that the tires are indeed softer riding and quieter than the Michelins when they were new, I think the Michelins still handled a little better but thats a tradeoff I'm happy to make.
The test will be if they will stay quiet as they age.
The test will be if they will stay quiet as they age.
#19
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I'm about 500 miles into ownership of the Toyos, and I'm a little dubious. I don't know if its my imagination or what, but they don't seem as quiet as they did when they were first mounted. Seems crazy to me that they could become louder in just 500 miles, and I'm wondering if it could just be my imagination?
On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?
I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.
On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?
I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.
#20
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I'm about 500 miles into ownership of the Toyos, and I'm a little dubious. I don't know if its my imagination or what, but they don't seem as quiet as they did when they were first mounted. Seems crazy to me that they could become louder in just 500 miles, and I'm wondering if it could just be my imagination?
On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?
I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.
On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?
I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.
#22
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#23
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I'm about 500 miles into ownership of the Toyos, and I'm a little dubious. I don't know if its my imagination or what, but they don't seem as quiet as they did when they were first mounted. Seems crazy to me that they could become louder in just 500 miles, and I'm wondering if it could just be my imagination?
On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?
I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.
On smooth pavement they are still very quiet, but on coarser pavement that used to impress me how well they smoothed it out I'm just not feeling that way like I was two weeks ago when I got the tires. Could it just be that the comparison to the Michelins is fading from my memory? Has anybody else ever owned tires that exhibited changes like that so early in their life?
I'm considering returning them for the Pirellis. All the reviews of the Pirellis are so good...I hate to do that though and then be disappointed with those.
For normal road use I have never found a better tire than Michelin.
#24
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I'm driving the Jeep today, but I'll see what I think when I drive the Lexus again tomorrow.
I'd say worst case I feel the Toyos at this point sound a lot like the Michelins. Quiet but they don't seem quieter to me anymore. All in all not the end of the world, I just worry that they will get louder as they age.
I'd say worst case I feel the Toyos at this point sound a lot like the Michelins. Quiet but they don't seem quieter to me anymore. All in all not the end of the world, I just worry that they will get louder as they age.
#25
Lexus Test Driver
I'm driving the Jeep today, but I'll see what I think when I drive the Lexus again tomorrow.
I'd say worst case I feel the Toyos at this point sound a lot like the Michelins. Quiet but they don't seem quieter to me anymore. All in all not the end of the world, I just worry that they will get louder as they age.
I'd say worst case I feel the Toyos at this point sound a lot like the Michelins. Quiet but they don't seem quieter to me anymore. All in all not the end of the world, I just worry that they will get louder as they age.
#27
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I've never known a tire to not get louder as they wear...simply due to less tread depth to channel, cushion and absorb. However, some tires do tend to get louder quicker than others...and I suspect this is what you are concerned about since you don't have any past experience with Toyo tires, and the only way to determine just how quickly they will get louder is to continue to own them and wear them down.
#28
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I think I'm just nuts. Drove it again today after having driven the Jeep yesterday, I thought they were very quiet again lol.
#29
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#30
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Haha. This has happened to me throughout my Lexus ownership. When you drive them every day and don't have anything to compare them to their refinement sort of starts to seem ordinary. Then when you spend time in something else and get back into the Lexus it really wows you again. I think that may be what was happening.