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Old 12-02-22, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
I will do the trans service myself; I was wondering what a shop charged. A spill and fill should be pretty cheap as you only replace 2.5 quarts. On a lift it is a piece of cake.
The pan drop and filter screen swap can add some pain...
Thanks for your post!

If you do it yourself make sure you follow the Lexus service guide, the transmission has to come to a specific temperature, and you must replace the exact same amount as was drained. I am sure you can find the exact service guide on TIS, pay a few bucks to access it to print it out and have at it yourself.
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Originally Posted by gravesg
This is why this is a service item in the international manual.
That's a fact. The people writing the American manual literally added the bit about being sealed for 'life', pulled it out of their ***. It's not in my manual. I don't think they got that line from Aisin's director of engineering either.

I wouldn't listen to a single word from a Lexus technician either, Lexus haven't taught them a single thing about rebuilding transmissions because they don't touch them, they just remove and install them. Unless they have prior experience in a tranny shop, they couldn't put a A760E back together if someone pulled one apart - it's simply not their job.

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Even water isn't a lifetime fluid, its the purest and still has to be refreshed and filtered.
I believe the reason to change it is to refresh additives. Keeps the seals nice and the way it came out of the factory. I'm not worried about the colour.
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Old 12-02-22, 10:03 PM
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This guy and his GS is living proof why you never have to change your transmission or the diff fluid. He hit 350,000 miles on the GS. I'm at 128k miles and never touching either.






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Old 12-03-22, 06:49 AM
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Just a question. If you could replace the same amount of fluid that you take out by measuring it and such without getting the fluid to a certain temperature, wouldn’t that be better and more accurate than replacing the fluid if both of them are at different temperatures? I would just think that the old fluid at let’s say outside air temperature of 75 degrees replaced with new fluid at the same temperature of 75 degrees would be equal volume. But hey, I am not a thermonuclear engineer.
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The 1st exchanges that gets the break in metals and materials drained out, are the most important.

We don't know if that Trans was ever serviced before he got it at 97k? Its a 100% unknown? By this thinking we could also say see.... likely it had 2 trans services and look at how far that allowed the Trans to go without any problems.

Go to IS and 3rd Gen GS forum. Same exact Trans. Lots have had problems past 150k.
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Originally Posted by Hues10
Just a question. If you could replace the same amount of fluid that you take out by measuring it and such without getting the fluid to a certain temperature, wouldn’t that be better and more accurate than replacing the fluid if both of them are at different temperatures? I would just think that the old fluid at let’s say outside air temperature of 75 degrees replaced with new fluid at the same temperature of 75 degrees would be equal volume. But hey, I am not a thermonuclear engineer.
Yes you are correct, i pulled 2.5 qts @ 60F yesterday,

Trans fluid was at 84K miles, never been pulled... Didn't even smell like trans fluid.

New amsoil fluid IMMEDIATELY gave me what felt like more power. Maybe just crisper shifts, but for only 20% of the fluid being renewed, I'm

impressed.
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Originally Posted by Hues10
Just a question. If you could replace the same amount of fluid that you take out by measuring it and such without getting the fluid to a certain temperature, wouldn’t that be better and more accurate than replacing the fluid if both of them are at different temperatures? I would just think that the old fluid at let’s say outside air temperature of 75 degrees replaced with new fluid at the same temperature of 75 degrees would be equal volume. But hey, I am not a thermonuclear engineer.
Yes you are correct, i pulled 2.5 qts @ 60F yesterday,

Trans fluid was at 84K miles, never been pulled... Didn't even smell like trans fluid.

New amsoil fluid IMMEDIATELY gave me what felt like more power. Maybe just crisper shifts, but for only 20% of the fluid being renewed, I'm

impressed.
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The reason to do the temp check and overflow is to release any air in the Trans fluid system lines. Kinda like bleeding the brakes and lines.
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Originally Posted by peasodos
This guy and his GS is living proof why you never have to change your transmission or the diff fluid. He hit 350,000 miles on the GS. I'm at 128k miles and never touching either.
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Originally Posted by bob256k
If you do it yourself make sure you follow the Lexus service guide, the transmission has to come to a specific temperature, and you must replace the exact same amount as was drained. I am sure you can find the exact service guide on TIS, pay a few bucks to access it to print it out and have at it yourself.
Our car, the 2013 GS350 F Sport RWD with the 6 speed trans specs 49 to 53°C (120 to 127°F).
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