Luxury package: Sport vs Sport+
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You can feel the steering difference in sport+ the most at higher speeds. You'll find yourself having to correct the car more frequently as the steering is much sharper. The trade off though is that it goes around bends like a dream.
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Okay, it depends on whether the car has AVS or not.
■Vehicles without AVS
Sport mode
An acceleration response suitable for sports driving is provided by controlling steering
response and transmission. Suitable for when precise handling is desirable, for example
when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right, the “SPORT” indicator comes on
in the instrument cluster.
If the car has AVS, then apparently no change is made to the steering until the Sport+ mode is chosen (as indicated below).
■Vehicles with AVS
Sport mode
• SPORT S mode
Improves acceleration response by controlling the transmission. Suitable for when
precise handling is desirable, for example when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while a made other than SPORT
S mode is selected, the “SPORT S” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
• SPORT S+ mode
Improves steering performance and driving stability by simultaneously controlling the
steering and suspension in addition to the transmission. Suitable for sporty driving.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while SPORT S mode is selected,
the “SPORT S+” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
■Vehicles without AVS
Sport mode
An acceleration response suitable for sports driving is provided by controlling steering
response and transmission. Suitable for when precise handling is desirable, for example
when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right, the “SPORT” indicator comes on
in the instrument cluster.
If the car has AVS, then apparently no change is made to the steering until the Sport+ mode is chosen (as indicated below).
■Vehicles with AVS
Sport mode
• SPORT S mode
Improves acceleration response by controlling the transmission. Suitable for when
precise handling is desirable, for example when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while a made other than SPORT
S mode is selected, the “SPORT S” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
• SPORT S+ mode
Improves steering performance and driving stability by simultaneously controlling the
steering and suspension in addition to the transmission. Suitable for sporty driving.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while SPORT S mode is selected,
the “SPORT S+” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
Last edited by bclexus; 03-18-15 at 03:12 PM.
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Okay, it depends on whether the car has AVS or not.
■Vehicles without AVS
Sport mode
An acceleration response suitable for sports driving is provided by controlling steering
response and transmission. Suitable for when precise handling is desirable, for example
when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right, the “SPORT” indicator comes on
in the instrument cluster.
If the car has AVS, then apparently no change is made to the steering until the Sport+ mode is chosen (as indicated below).
■Vehicles with AVS
Sport mode
• SPORT S mode
Improves acceleration response by controlling the transmission. Suitable for when
precise handling is desirable, for example when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while a made other than SPORT
S mode is selected, the “SPORT S” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
• SPORT S+ mode
Improves steering performance and driving stability by simultaneously controlling the
steering and suspension in addition to the transmission. Suitable for sporty driving.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while SPORT S mode is selected,
the “SPORT S+” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
■Vehicles without AVS
Sport mode
An acceleration response suitable for sports driving is provided by controlling steering
response and transmission. Suitable for when precise handling is desirable, for example
when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right, the “SPORT” indicator comes on
in the instrument cluster.
If the car has AVS, then apparently no change is made to the steering until the Sport+ mode is chosen (as indicated below).
■Vehicles with AVS
Sport mode
• SPORT S mode
Improves acceleration response by controlling the transmission. Suitable for when
precise handling is desirable, for example when driving on mountain roads.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while a made other than SPORT
S mode is selected, the “SPORT S” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
• SPORT S+ mode
Improves steering performance and driving stability by simultaneously controlling the
steering and suspension in addition to the transmission. Suitable for sporty driving.
When the driving mode select switch is turned right while SPORT S mode is selected,
the “SPORT S+” indicator comes on in the instrument cluster.
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When you say sharper steering, you don't necessarily mean stiffer. Right?
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Forget about the F-Sport - because the topic is about a GS 350 Luxury Package and the difference(s) of Sport mode versus Sport+ mode. Also, forget about the engine throttle response and also the transmission shift characteristics because both Sport mode and Sport+ mode provide exactly the same for those two things. That said, the only things that remain are the suspension and the steering. We already know that only Sport+ mode changes the suspension. And, we already know that the Sport mode changes the steering response. All that said, the only question that remains to be answered is - in a Luxury Package GS 350 does Sport+ mode 'further' change the steering in some way (e.g. even heavier feel over what Sport mode provides or a change in ratio, etc.) beyond what the Sport mode already changes the steering?
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correct, in my premium version, putting it in sports tightens the steering. but for cars with avs (fsport and luxury), sports only affects the throttle i think. s+ does the steering + suspension
and yes, the steering tightening is very noticeable. when i first got my car, i thought the steering was very loose and i thought steering tightening is only available on luxury or fsport. then few days later i turned on sports and i immediately thought to myself "how come the steering got tighter?" that's when i found out sports mode tighten the steering. then by turning sport on and off, i felt the changes clearly
and yes, the steering tightening is very noticeable. when i first got my car, i thought the steering was very loose and i thought steering tightening is only available on luxury or fsport. then few days later i turned on sports and i immediately thought to myself "how come the steering got tighter?" that's when i found out sports mode tighten the steering. then by turning sport on and off, i felt the changes clearly
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To me, it feels stiffer. Feels more connected to the road and less power boosted. Smaller steering wheel movement for the same amount turn of vs. standard setting (but this is more due to the VGRS).
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That explains the difference. In my GS 350 Premium when I go to Sport mode the steering response changes whereas with a Luxury package or F-Sport the steering response does not change...and to change the steering response requires going to Sport+ mode.
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So for the OP, have a friend drive your car. You sit in the passenger seat and adjust the settings. Try it in different speeds. See if your friend(s) can tell a difference.
It's electric power steering so it is possible yours is not getting the right signal. Or, maybe you're just not feeling the difference.