Anyone think the GS 350 F Sports Acceleration is really slow?
#1
Driver
Thread Starter
Anyone think the GS 350 F Sports Acceleration is really slow?
I have a 2014 GS 350 F sport and I feel like the car's acceleration is really slow.
Also when I am turning sharp corners, I seem to be leaning towards the door a lot. So much body roll. Any one else experience this?
You guys think it's those crappy bridgestone tires?
Also when I am turning sharp corners, I seem to be leaning towards the door a lot. So much body roll. Any one else experience this?
You guys think it's those crappy bridgestone tires?
#2
Lexus Champion
No complaints here.
As for being "slow" it's a relative term. Are there faster cars out there? Absolutely. Just as there are slower ones. I am still happy with the acceleration in mine. I took a thorough test drive so I knew what I was getting when I bought it.
As for body roll, I would classify it as moderate to light in normal mode, and pretty minimal/well controlled in Sport S+. Overall, I've been satisfied with it.
As for being "slow" it's a relative term. Are there faster cars out there? Absolutely. Just as there are slower ones. I am still happy with the acceleration in mine. I took a thorough test drive so I knew what I was getting when I bought it.
As for body roll, I would classify it as moderate to light in normal mode, and pretty minimal/well controlled in Sport S+. Overall, I've been satisfied with it.
#3
What were you driving before?
#4
Driver
Thread Starter
A 2004 bmw z4
Here is an opinion from another owner from a different forum. I guess I am not alone. Oh well.
"GS 350's 1st gear sucks. There, I said it. It's lazy, long, and dog slow. I will never, ever burn anyone off a red light. At the same time, I doubt I'll ever spin the tires in the rain at a red light which happened nearly every time in the old Infiniti G35, the TCS light happily reminding me 1st gear was high strung. Once you get past first gear, the car positively hauls ***, but the 1 or 2 seconds you're stuck in it, it feels like you're stuck in the mud. This leads you to believe the car is intentionally electronically hampered and creates doubt about what the 306 horses under the hood are capable of. On the bright side, knowing it acts this way, I am much less tempted to pull some Friday night stoplight pedal stomping crap like I used to (for fun of course). There's no point. With a 5.7s 0-60, I'm not going to impress anyone in the same price range anyway, so there's really no reason to smash the gas on green. Still, I miss the immediacy and rottweiler-on-a-short-leash 5 speed from the G35, even if it snapped your neck doing the 1-2 shift in the winter."
Here is an opinion from another owner from a different forum. I guess I am not alone. Oh well.
"GS 350's 1st gear sucks. There, I said it. It's lazy, long, and dog slow. I will never, ever burn anyone off a red light. At the same time, I doubt I'll ever spin the tires in the rain at a red light which happened nearly every time in the old Infiniti G35, the TCS light happily reminding me 1st gear was high strung. Once you get past first gear, the car positively hauls ***, but the 1 or 2 seconds you're stuck in it, it feels like you're stuck in the mud. This leads you to believe the car is intentionally electronically hampered and creates doubt about what the 306 horses under the hood are capable of. On the bright side, knowing it acts this way, I am much less tempted to pull some Friday night stoplight pedal stomping crap like I used to (for fun of course). There's no point. With a 5.7s 0-60, I'm not going to impress anyone in the same price range anyway, so there's really no reason to smash the gas on green. Still, I miss the immediacy and rottweiler-on-a-short-leash 5 speed from the G35, even if it snapped your neck doing the 1-2 shift in the winter."
Last edited by Speed3381; 12-14-16 at 11:31 AM.
#5
Pole Position
Well it is a NA engine so it takes time for the torque to kick in. Not really complaining as its definitely faster than the average cars. Considering its a sports luxury car, only performance cars can beat it (M, AMG, F, S, other performance cars lol, and some of other sports luxury cars).
As for the body roll, it does lean quite a lot but the suspension and chassis really grips the road quite well
As for the body roll, it does lean quite a lot but the suspension and chassis really grips the road quite well
#6
No complaints here.
As for being "slow" it's a relative term. Are there faster cars out there? Absolutely. Just as there are slower ones. I am still happy with the acceleration in mine. I took a thorough test drive so I knew what I was getting when I bought it.
As for body roll, I would classify it as moderate to light in normal mode, and pretty minimal/well controlled in Sport S+. Overall, I've been satisfied with it.
As for being "slow" it's a relative term. Are there faster cars out there? Absolutely. Just as there are slower ones. I am still happy with the acceleration in mine. I took a thorough test drive so I knew what I was getting when I bought it.
As for body roll, I would classify it as moderate to light in normal mode, and pretty minimal/well controlled in Sport S+. Overall, I've been satisfied with it.
#7
Lexus Champion
As mentioned before, speed is subjective. Compared to your old car, it's probably on par in acceleration. The GS is faster than most cars on the road. You can get a the Apexi throttle controller to improve response in the lower gears.
Body lean is pretty well controlled for a luxury sedan. It's not going to be as flat as a Z4 though.
Body lean is pretty well controlled for a luxury sedan. It's not going to be as flat as a Z4 though.
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#8
Lexus Champion
get a GSF. Dealers are unloading them at 23% off msrp
#10
Pole Position
And i thought Sport+ in first gear is really jerky. Does a throttle controller actually improve 0-60 times?
#12
Lexus Test Driver
By the way, the car's transmission gearing and rear-end gearing are very adequate for acceleration (with the 6-speed providing better 0-60 times).
BMW Z4 0-60 Times
Lexus GS 350 0-60 Times
Last edited by bclexus; 12-14-16 at 04:23 PM.
#13
You Z4 was certainly a more agile car than the GS. you went form a 2 door roadster weighing sub-3,000 lbs to a 4 Door Luxury car weighing 3,600+ lbs. There is a huge difference in mannerisms when driving the two. The GS 350 would feel "bloated" to you. Personally, I love the GS, and I set my expectations accordingly. I don't expect it to win very many stoplight drag races. However, I feel the acceleration is more than adequate for the type of car that it is...306HP pushing a 3,600lb 4 door, rear wheel drive sedan...and I sold a 700+ HP Mustang to get into this.
#15
Lexus Test Driver
Here is an opinion from another owner from a different forum. I guess I am not alone. Oh well.
"GS 350's 1st gear sucks. There, I said it. It's lazy, long, and dog slow. I will never, ever burn anyone off a red light. At the same time, I doubt I'll ever spin the tires in the rain at a red light which happened nearly every time in the old Infiniti G35, the TCS light happily reminding me 1st gear was high strung. Once you get past first gear, the car positively hauls ***, but the 1 or 2 seconds you're stuck in it, it feels like you're stuck in the mud. This leads you to believe the car is intentionally electronically hampered and creates doubt about what the 306 horses under the hood are capable of. On the bright side, knowing it acts this way, I am much less tempted to pull some Friday night stoplight pedal stomping crap like I used to (for fun of course). There's no point. With a 5.7s 0-60, I'm not going to impress anyone in the same price range anyway, so there's really no reason to smash the gas on green. Still, I miss the immediacy and rottweiler-on-a-short-leash 5 speed from the G35, even if it snapped your neck doing the 1-2 shift in the winter."
"GS 350's 1st gear sucks. There, I said it. It's lazy, long, and dog slow. I will never, ever burn anyone off a red light. At the same time, I doubt I'll ever spin the tires in the rain at a red light which happened nearly every time in the old Infiniti G35, the TCS light happily reminding me 1st gear was high strung. Once you get past first gear, the car positively hauls ***, but the 1 or 2 seconds you're stuck in it, it feels like you're stuck in the mud. This leads you to believe the car is intentionally electronically hampered and creates doubt about what the 306 horses under the hood are capable of. On the bright side, knowing it acts this way, I am much less tempted to pull some Friday night stoplight pedal stomping crap like I used to (for fun of course). There's no point. With a 5.7s 0-60, I'm not going to impress anyone in the same price range anyway, so there's really no reason to smash the gas on green. Still, I miss the immediacy and rottweiler-on-a-short-leash 5 speed from the G35, even if it snapped your neck doing the 1-2 shift in the winter."
For comparison purposes, the G35 (in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear) has the following ground speeds (see very bottom of this page) at its [significantly] higher 7,600 RPM engine redline. As you can see, the 2008 Infiniti G35's ground speed in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears matches the Lexus GS 350 with a 6-speed transmission very closely at their respective maximum engine RPMs. It should be noted that the Lexus GS 350 with an 8-speed transmission has significantly shorter transmission gear ratios that upshifts even sooner at lower ground speeds than the 6-speed even though the final drive gear is taller. Thus, to say the; "GS 350's 1st gear sucks. It's lazy, long, and dog slow." is totally incorrect.
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Lexus GS 350 (6-Speed)
Below are ground speeds at 6,500 RPM engine redline for all 6 gears (RWD - A760E 6-Speed Automatic):
(*Speed limiter is electronically governed at 142 MPH preventing max speed of ~170 MPH • **Engine will not reach redline in 5th or 6th gear)
1st Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.615
1st Gear Ratio: 3.52
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 41.6970892440055 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 2nd Gear @ 3940 RPM)
2nd Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.615
2nd Gear Ratio: 2.043
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 71.84226830097863 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 3rd Gear @ 4650 RPM)
3rd Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.615
3rd Gear Ratio: 1.401
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 104.76356469585963 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 4th Gear @ 4845 RPM)
*4th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.615
4th Gear Ratio: 1.000
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = *146.77375413889936 MPH
**5th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.615
5th Gear Ratio: 0.717
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = **204.7053753680605 MPH
**6th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.615
6th Gear Ratio: 0.586
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = **250.46715723361663 MPH
6th Gear - 50% of Redline:
Engine RPM: 3250 = 125.23 MPH
Maximum Torque: 277 ft-lb @ 4,800 RPM
Maximum Horsepower: 306 SAE net @ 6,400 RPM
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Lexus GS 350 (8-Speed)
Below are ground speeds at 6,500 RPM engine redline for all 8 gears (RWD - AA81E 8-Speed Automatic):
(Speed limiter is electronically governed at 142 MPH preventing max speed of ~170 MPH • **Engine will not reach redline in 6th, 7th or 8th gear)
1st Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
1st Gear Ratio: 4.596
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 37.66565457305995 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 2nd Gear @ 3855 RPM)
2nd Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
2nd Gear Ratio: 2.724
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 63.55042159243155 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 3rd Gear @ 4440 RPM)
3rd Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
3rd Gear Ratio: 1.863
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 92.92074525914309 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 4th Gear @ 5110 RPM)
4th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
4th Gear Ratio: 1.464
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 118.24545656952431 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 5th Gear @ 5465 RPM)
5th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
5th Gear Ratio: 1.231
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = 140.62660310136764 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 6th Gear @ 5280 RPM)
**6th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
6th Gear Ratio: 1.00
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = **173.11134841778357 MPH
**7th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
7th Gear Ratio: 0.824
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = **210.0865878856597 MPH
**8th Gear:
Tire Size: 265/35 x 19" = 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 2.937
8th Gear Ratio: 0.685
Engine RPM: 6500 Redline = **252.717296960268 MPH
8th Gear - 50% of Redline:
Engine RPM: 3250 = 126.35 MPH
Maximum Torque: 277 ft-lb @ 4,800 RPM
Maximum Horsepower: 306 SAE net @ 6,400 RPM
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2008 Infiniti G35
1st Gear:
Tire Size: 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.692
1st Gear Ratio: 3.841
Engine RPM: 7600 Redline = 41.92 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 2nd Gear @ 4654 RPM)
2nd Gear:
Tire Size: 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.692
2nd Gear Ratio: 2.352
Engine RPM: 7600 Redline = 68.459 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 3rd Gear @ 4941 RPM)
3rd Gear:
Tire Size: 82.6" Circumference
Final Drive Gear: 3.692
3rd Gear Ratio: 1.529
Engine RPM: 7600 Redline = 105.308 MPH (Up-Shift Engages 4th Gear @ 4971 RPM)
Maximum Torque: 268 ft-lb @ 4,800 RPM
Maximum Horsepower: 306 SAE net @ 7,600 RPM
Last edited by bclexus; 12-14-16 at 06:24 PM.
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