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"l'll take door #2 Bob". One and three are just Butt-Ugly and way too pretentious. Gee, I wonder why Lexus sales have plummeted with the new update models?
Not cause I own a es. But out the 3 the es def looks the best along with 16. Out of all the 16 Lexus sedans the es looks the most cohesive. I can't stand the non f sport 13-15 at all. The f sport is nice but the 16 is the way to go imho.
It's all about the angles with the 13-15. From dead on front, it might not look the most "future proof. Still, it's elegant and classy. From a higher up, quarter view, the rest of the car's lines help keep it stay current. For instance, it makes the previous gen TL look super out-dated, and they competed in the same years:
It's all about the angles with the 13-15. From dead on front, it might not look the most "future proof. Still, it's elegant and classy. From a higher up, quarter view, the rest of the car's lines help keep it stay current. For instance, it makes the previous gen TL look super out-dated, and they competed in the same years:
I was personally never a fan of those TL's in styling.
I was personally never a fan of those TL's in styling.
Yes it was polarizing to many, especially the "beak". One of those cars that grew on you as you owned it I'd say. It's also one of those cars that just do not look great in pictures, but doesn't look as bad in person when you see the proportions.
The rear end of teh car was more dynamic though....I'd say it stands out more than the GS. It was one of my more favorite angles of the car when i had it.
It's just a matter of inches.
A slightly longer nose on a RWD car makes it look like a FWD car.
The 2016 has a longer nose than a 2013-15.
That said, I am keeping an eye on GS F prices-would love to own one.
I prefer the13-15 front and rear fascias, but the new look is growing on me. I am eagerly anticipating the next re-design of the GS. I am guessing that is 3 years away. I think if the designers start with a clean slate then the elements like the spindle grill work better....I like the new LS both inside and out. I really want the next GS-F, but I imagine that is going to be even more than 3 years away. Long wait.
Easily remedied by vinyl wrapping the center portion of the grille with black.
100% agreement on this. I personally prefer the crossmember/bumper as opposed to the new HUGE spindle look, too much see through plastic in my opinion. It also provides a nice mounting place for those states like mine that require front plates. When I see a front tag on the new models, the plate looks like it is floating Since all the Lexus models have these gigantic grills, it will make the 13-15s look dated.
I agree with you, in the MVA area you mostly see the ES in my opinion. I'm torn between the 2015 and the 2016 as i'm looking to buy one use later on this summer or earlier. It's a must to have the Pre collision system and it's hard to find in the 2015 and previous, you see more 2016's with it, but the price of the 2015 obviously is lower and low mileage CPO is starting to seems very attractive to me. I like them both styles and also the IS350 which is essentially the same engine.
Finding one w/ pre-collision will definitely be a challenge - Definitely look in the NYC metro area when you search, a bit of a drive, but thousands cheaper than the DC metro area. Also I thought they had a better selection overall compared to here.
The ES and IS definitely far outnumber the GS (IIRC, they sell roughly 3x more ES's and 3x more IS's than the GS). I had an IS300 as a loaner when I got my oil changed. While I won't say the IS is a bad car, it definitely is targeted for a different audience. It was a lot less refined, relatively small (seemed like roughly the same size as my old ILX, which is essentially a Civic), etc. The power was nice - Definitely better than my buddy's IS250, but it was "too sporty" for my taste. It just rode really rough, even on the highways in CT, which aren't as bad as DC or parts of Arlington. Not sure if I would deal with that ride on a daily commute.
Finding one w/ pre-collision will definitely be a challenge - Definitely look in the NYC metro area when you search, a bit of a drive, but thousands cheaper than the DC metro area. Also I thought they had a better selection overall compared to here.
The ES and IS definitely far outnumber the GS (IIRC, they sell roughly 3x more ES's and 3x more IS's than the GS). I had an IS300 as a loaner when I got my oil changed. While I won't say the IS is a bad car, it definitely is targeted for a different audience. It was a lot less refined, relatively small (seemed like roughly the same size as my old ILX, which is essentially a Civic), etc. The power was nice - Definitely better than my buddy's IS250, but it was "too sporty" for my taste. It just rode really rough, even on the highways in CT, which aren't as bad as DC or parts of Arlington. Not sure if I would deal with that ride on a daily commute.
I definitely prefer the comfort and ride of the GS compared to the IS here in the DMV! Commuting is a b***h here haha...
I never had the experience of driving an IS until last week when i had it for a loaner via the dealership. Man what a difference! The GS feels like a yacht in comparison in terms of refinement and smoothness.
I WILL say that i did enjoy the immediate handling of the IS more than the GS. It definitely is more nimble and responsive at the wheel. I felt i could "cut in" on turns with more authority and precision. Still, GS all day at the end of the day.
It's interesting to see the comments about the IS vs GS because I've owned both and they both feel so similar to me, at least in terms of ride/handling. Where the GS really shines is interior room and quality, features, and overall quietness. I don't find my GS to be any smoother than my IS was, but it's definitely the better car overall for me.
It's interesting to see the comments about the IS vs GS because I've owned both and they both feel so similar to me, at least in terms of ride/handling. Where the GS really shines is interior room and quality, features, and overall quietness. I don't find my GS to be any smoother than my IS was, but it's definitely the better car overall for me.
To my point exactly, when you have the type of commute there is in the DC Metro area, those slight differences you mentioned are key lol. If I'm just going to sit in a parking lot on my way home, might as well be comfortable! ML Audio helps too of course which can be in both models haha.
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