Steering and handling of Non F-Sport v. F-Sport
02-08-17, 09:41 PM
#16
F Sport also has variable gear ratio steering which changes between Normal & S+.....which actually physically makes the steering "quicker" (not just a "heavier feel" like in non-F). Also F Sport has bigger brakes too. Actually quite a few differences that add up to a very different driving feel to the car!
By the way, on the 16+ cars, the 12.3" screen no longer shows the diagram of what changes in the different modes...go figure???
By the way, on the 16+ cars, the 12.3" screen no longer shows the diagram of what changes in the different modes...go figure???
02-09-17, 01:46 PM
#17
I wonder if and when the ECU is ever cracked into if the steering tightness could be overridden to be more stiff. One of my complaints about the electronic steering when I got this car is that it feels a little too soft, I like the really tight steering. I don't know how the sport steering feels to the steering in sport+ on f-sport or if there is a really big difference there.
02-09-17, 09:15 PM
#18
I wonder if and when the ECU is ever cracked into if the steering tightness could be overridden to be more stiff. One of my complaints about the electronic steering when I got this car is that it feels a little too soft, I like the really tight steering. I don't know how the sport steering feels to the steering in sport+ on f-sport or if there is a really big difference there.
02-10-17, 01:17 PM
#19
If you drove a '16 or later year Non-F I think you would be pleased with the S+ mode. Of course it does not have the same brakes, tires, or the rear steering but man it's a joy to drive and handles extremely well. Tires can be remedied easily but you'll need to spend some bucks for the other two. I am waiting for a open track day at the MSR course near Houston so that I can take mine out for a spin. Should be fun testing how well it does.
02-10-17, 01:34 PM
#20
If you drove a '16 or later year Non-F I think you would be pleased with the S+ mode. Of course it does not have the same brakes, tires, or the rear steering but man it's a joy to drive and handles extremely well. Tires can be remedied easily but you'll need to spend some bucks for the other two. I am waiting for a open track day at the MSR course near Houston so that I can take mine out for a spin. Should be fun testing how well it does.
Last edited by DJP333; 02-10-17 at 01:38 PM.
02-10-17, 01:59 PM
#21
Lexus Test Driver
I just looked up an open track day race course near me (http://eaglescanyon.com/). I would love to take my car out to this! Only problem is that I could see myself getting addicted to doing this kind of thing. Plus, I would kill my tires.
02-10-17, 02:18 PM
#22
Haha, when you put it like that, it doesn't sound so enticing. I think I will just hook up my radar detector and go driving around DFW highways during the weekend. Much healthier for my car in the long run. A few years ago (when I was younger and crazier) I once hit 140mph in my IS350 on George Bush Tollway (between 35 and 635). What a thrill that was. There is a stretch where you can see a mile or two ahead, when driving south bound.
02-10-17, 02:22 PM
#23
Lexus Test Driver
Haha, when you put it like that, it doesn't sound so enticing. I think I will just hook up my radar detector and go driving around DFW highways during the weekend. Much healthier for my car in the long run. A few years ago (when I was younger and crazier) I once hit 140mph in my IS350 on George Bush Tollway (between 35 and 635). What a thrill that was. There is a stretch where you can see a mile or two ahead, when driving south bound.
02-10-17, 02:31 PM
#25
Lexus Test Driver
02-10-17, 02:37 PM
#27
Lexus Test Driver
02-10-17, 02:53 PM
#29
Lexus Test Driver
02-15-17, 08:08 PM
#30
Correct. In non-F-Sport the Sport mode alters the heaviness or tightness of the steering. It also alters the engine fuel mapping and timing for increased responsiveness as well as the shift points and timing of the transmission. The Sport mode in a non-F-Sport does the same thing that an F-Sport does in Sport+ mode excluding the adjustment of the shock/struts, the latter of which the non-F-Sport does not have.
You should be able to see what changes when you engage Sport mode by looking at your 12.3" screen. It should show the steering, engine and transmission as being highlighted in red for a few seconds.
You should be able to see what changes when you engage Sport mode by looking at your 12.3" screen. It should show the steering, engine and transmission as being highlighted in red for a few seconds.