Is Lexus killing (discontinuing) the GS Line ? (Merged threads)
09-23-19, 07:20 AM
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09-23-19, 07:39 AM
#617
Lexus Champion
09-23-19, 07:41 AM
#618
Lexus Champion
Could you imagine if the wheel gap shown in that F Sport photo was stock? I'd be in heaven. This is one thing that bugs me about Lexus photos. If you have to lower it to make it look good enough for pictures, then do it in real life.
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09-23-19, 10:13 AM
#620
Lexus Test Driver
09-24-19, 01:57 PM
#621
The 5GS has to bring the heat. Lexus is taking its good ole time on this redesign. If they wanted to discontinue the GS Line they would’ve did it by now. With it returinging for year 2020 unchanged this gives me hope that Akio and his minions are hard at work on something really spicy.
I sure hope they reverse engineered the Audi A7-S7. I owned one for a very short time after loosing my 4GS in a crash this year and I was quite satisfied with the overall experience of living with it day to day.
The fundmental thing is the next generation GS has to be lower and wider with a streched wheelbase and shortened overhangs. With the hatchback design Lexus will attract the active lifestyle type buyers along with keeping the general shape of a 4 door coupe/sedan.
Powertrain options need to very advanced and diverse to further separate it from the ES.
Twin turbo V6 and V8 options with AWD as standard equipment and four wheel steering being a option on both models.
To further compliment the GS the GSh hybrid needs to do what the last gen GSh did, but without compromising cargo capacity and AWD.
The price should reflect the high level build quality, but still not encroach on the very expensive offerings from Germany.
I sure hope they reverse engineered the Audi A7-S7. I owned one for a very short time after loosing my 4GS in a crash this year and I was quite satisfied with the overall experience of living with it day to day.
The fundmental thing is the next generation GS has to be lower and wider with a streched wheelbase and shortened overhangs. With the hatchback design Lexus will attract the active lifestyle type buyers along with keeping the general shape of a 4 door coupe/sedan.
Powertrain options need to very advanced and diverse to further separate it from the ES.
Twin turbo V6 and V8 options with AWD as standard equipment and four wheel steering being a option on both models.
To further compliment the GS the GSh hybrid needs to do what the last gen GSh did, but without compromising cargo capacity and AWD.
The price should reflect the high level build quality, but still not encroach on the very expensive offerings from Germany.
Think about the market as a whole and not just a bunch of car nerds on a forum who love RWD and burnouts. Adam the junior executive doesn't care about RWD dynamics and "powersliding bro."
So the GS represents a very small slice of the business and going forward there doesn't appear to be a path. Cross your fingers though!
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09-24-19, 04:39 PM
#622
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I hope they don't kill it but I think they most likely drop the GS and add AWD to the ES. I hope Lexus at least offers some options with more HP in years coming to the ES if they go that way.
02-10-20, 03:50 PM
#624
GS officially dead..AWD Camry/Avalon/ES?
I know I know perhaps misleading but with Toyota announcing the Camry and Avalon will be offered in AWD this fall and ES next, this more or less will put the final coffin on the GS right? I know they mentioned it back in November of 2019 but today they showed off the new AWD models.This version of the AWD is the new dynamic torque control system with an electronic/mech diff system that essentially decouples sending 50% of the torque to the rear. Downside it's only available on a 4 cylinder 2021 Camry..what a joke. no V6 + AWD? Big mistake
02-10-20, 04:28 PM
#625
Lead Lap
It certainly doesn't look good for the GS - even still, I'd wait for an official announcement from them at the end of the year. It seems the last few years folks have been questioning the death (or revival?) of the GS.
One possibility is that the GS lives on as a high performance RWD-only variant (e.g. GS F) especially since the Crown and that platform still exists in Japan. Regardless of what happens to the GS, I thoroughly enjoy my '13!
One possibility is that the GS lives on as a high performance RWD-only variant (e.g. GS F) especially since the Crown and that platform still exists in Japan. Regardless of what happens to the GS, I thoroughly enjoy my '13!
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NickMayer (02-11-20)
02-10-20, 04:45 PM
#627
Lexus Champion
I don't think an AWD 4 cylinder Camry or Avalon have anything to do with the future of the GS.
I am yet to see anything official on the ES coming with AWD, but when (if, but most likely when) it does, I think they may only offer it on the hybrid version. That also won't have anything to do with the GS.
Do I think the GS is going to live to see another generation? No. Do I think the Camry, Avalon, or even ES models with AWD have anything to do with it? No. AWD will not make those cars into what the GS is. The GS is going to die for one reason only - Lexus stopped investing in it.
I am yet to see anything official on the ES coming with AWD, but when (if, but most likely when) it does, I think they may only offer it on the hybrid version. That also won't have anything to do with the GS.
Do I think the GS is going to live to see another generation? No. Do I think the Camry, Avalon, or even ES models with AWD have anything to do with it? No. AWD will not make those cars into what the GS is. The GS is going to die for one reason only - Lexus stopped investing in it.
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02-10-20, 05:08 PM
#630
It is interesting what will happen. As JDR76 mentioned, I don't think the AWD versions of those models mentioned have much to do with it. From a business perspective, there's only a handful of us who truly enjoy the GS for what it is. There is no denying that the GS is amazing in many ways but consumers are not purchasing it. There has been a decline in total sales per year of the GS since 2016. Personally, I would stop producing a vehicle that isn't selling despite knowing it is a great car.