JakeAaron

bclexus

What you are experiencing is very typical for stop-n-go city driving.

JDR76

ReggieFish

I know there are several threads on this, but I'm always looking to collect more data. I've found a 2015 luxury with low miles and ML. It is the car I want. I am deciding between this and a new accord touring. I realize they are 2 very different cars. The biggest strikes against the Lexus is the infotainment and fuel economy as far as I can tell. The accord is solid, great infotainment (2018), but is in the first year of a complete redesign, has a terrible stereo, and wont be as fun to drive when the mood strikes, along with not being as refined.

My driving will probably be 75% hwy 25% city. Probably higher than 75% hwy as once I get out my neighborhood, I drive 45 mph for 5 miles (i live in a rural area) with one stop sign before I get on the interstate. Once off the interstate it's probably only a 1/4 mile to my office.

With that said what is your hwy mpg?

drgrant

What kind of traffic are you in? If your bogged down in city garbage most of the time, this is typical. If I have a weekend of "local bullcrap" where I fill up, and then never see a highway for 2 days, getting an after refueling value of like 16-18 mpg is typical.

drgrant

I do like 80% highway and my avg on good traffic days is 21-23 mpg. On bad days (lots of stop and go traffic) it can go down to 19.
21 mpg is a number that keeps coming back again and again with great frequency. My commute is like 37.5 miles each way. I also run my tires a little hard compared to the plate spec. (like 38 cold).

Highest highway mileage I ever scored with this car was like 24.6, but that's literally after fueling up and getting on a highway 20 seconds later and driving for a couple of hours into CT...

This is not a fuel saving vehicle regardless. (I joke that 2GR-FSE, the FSE stands for Fuel Sucking Engine ) If fuel economy is a big deal you're better off looking at something else. On the other hand you have to ask yourself whether it's actually a big deal or not- Calculate scenarios based on annual fuel use etc and see where the numbers come up. How long is your total commute in each direction?

Like my current use rate is about 20K miles a year. After I do the math it's about $2900 in premium gas at current prices. Of course it helps that I get $90 fees I collect on my 2nd job (basically this is what I charge just to show up) I easily clock in 2000+ bucks on that after taxes every year, probably more. So the fuel cost doesn't concern me too much (because I made other people pay for it, lmao) although it was nice with my Camry pumping the 87 in there and getting 28 all the time... but not nearly as fun to drive. Not even close.

-Mike

ReggieFish

My commute is 34 miles round-trip.

Yeah, it's one of those areas where there is a fine line. It's not a question of whether I can afford it, rather how do I feel about $750/yr vs $350/yr extra beyond the alternative car that is simply going up in fumes. I am willing to deal with the latter. Not so with the former.

The car I'm looking at is RWD.

Are you driving a RWD OR AWD?

Knucklebus

It is a big, heavy, rear wheel drive car with lots of running gear to move. If you want to be sure you are babying it, put it in eco mode and watch the cluster display on economy or instant MPG mode. Keep that display up and on the infotainment, monitor the recent MPG graph.

Of course this is not the kind of car you buy for hypermiling but it can make a difference. My 2013 AWD GS is getting 16-17MPG in town but I rarely sit in traffic and will take a side street to keep moving instead of stopping at a major intersection. On the road, back roads and interstate, I'm getting 26.5MPG.

ph0bolus

'13 F-Sport here, when I bought the car in December I had 26 MPG on the 3hr drive home, now since it's my daily and I drive strictly in the city it's gone down to 20.2 MPG. Rarely any traffic except stop-and-go at the lights.

djrabbi

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When I moved from NJ to NC, it did about 375 on highway with me stretching it at E for a good 20min. I think I was averaging around 21-22MPG highway even though Lexus estimates it at 29 highway! I don't know how others are getting 400+ but yeah this car does suck on gas but it is comfortable to drive vs its competitors.

AJLex19

OP: Nothing wrong with your GS. I'm regularly getting 13-15mpg in exclusively city driving with my AWD GS350. The car is def. much better on the highway where I typically get around 22mpg.

djrabbi

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About the same here. Sad that my V8 Benz would give better mileage than this car

peasodos

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If mpg is your concern just get a 450h. I average about 30 mpg in mixed driving and 36 on the highway on long trips in eco mode. Also the car goes all electric at low speeds and when you stop.

it's RWD, but performs very well in the snow bacause the battery pack is right over the rear axle. I drove from nc to va in a snow storm with snow still on the road. Was passing trucks and suv's the entire time. Car was very stable and traction control would set you straight when you slip.

AJLex19

Ain't that the truth - my old GS430 got similar gas mileage compared to my current GS but that old car had much more torque with great pull throughout the entire RPM range. I seriously considered a GS450h but couldn't do it because of its premium price and its lack of AWD.

djrabbi

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I was pushing close to 600whp/650wtq on the CLS with god awful tire spin. Lexus is very comfortable to drive, sometimes I feel like dozing off haha