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Old 03-06-18, 07:11 AM
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Default Staggered fitment on AWD GS

I tried to find some posts, but they are all old posts from 2013-2015. How are staggered fitments holding up on the AWD system?

I recently traded in a RWD 06 IS for a 2015 AWD FSport GS (certified) and I had Vossen CV4s on the IS and they are now just sitting in my garage. I read tire specs and got new front tires 245/35s and the back tires are already 275/30s. The wheels are 9" wide up front and 10.5" on the back. Just wanted to see how cars were holding up, if anyone has had issues, etc. I'm a little hesitant since I have a certified car with warranty, etc.

Also I plan on switching back to factory wheels and tires during Nov - March every year.

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I have no problems. I have a 2013 awd going on 20k miles. My car is also certified. I' running 255s and 225s
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Old 03-07-18, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Juju00
I have no problems. I have a 2013 awd going on 20k miles. My car is also certified. I' running 255s and 225s
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Staggered widths have no effect on AWD cars as long the outer diameters of the tires match the OEM tires. Use a tire calculator.
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Well I ended up getting 245/35 for the fronts and have 275/30 for the rears. The fronts are +1.5% and the rears are +0.4%. Do you think I would run into any issues running this setup? I usually will only have these wheels on the car for 7-8 months and will have stock wheels for winter.
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What you need to calculate is the overall diameter of the tires. Assuming you are usin 19" wheels, your proposed front tires will have a diameter of 25.8" (655mm). Your rear tires will be 25.5" (648mm). So a diameter difference of 0.3" (7mm).

That is about the same difference as running a brand new set on one axle and a completely bald set of tires on the other (~9/32" difference). This sounds like too much of a difference in size for my comfort.

Use a tire size calculator to find out what tires will be closest in diameter. As an example, moving to a front tire with the specs of 235/35-19 give you a diameter of 25.5" (648mm) - that's a perfect match and what you should strive for.

Good luck!
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Sorry forgot to mention these are 20s I have f sport 19s currently
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The AWD IS has a staggered setup from the factory. I'm being too lazy to look it up, but since it's the same system as on the GS, you could look up the percentage of circumference difference from front to rear on the IS and as long as you stay within that on the GS, I would think you'd be okay.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
The AWD IS has a staggered setup from the factory. I'm being too lazy to look it up, but since it's the same system as on the GS, you could look up the percentage of circumference difference from front to rear on the IS and as long as you stay within that on the GS, I would think you'd be okay.
I'm going to go on record as saying unless the gear ratios are different in the front and rear differentials, the tire diameter must be within a very small percentage of difference. Otherwise the drive train will bind up and wear itself out.
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Originally Posted by Knucklebus
I'm going to go on record as saying unless the gear ratios are different in the front and rear differentials, the tire diameter must be within a very small percentage of difference. Otherwise the drive train will bind up and wear itself out.
+1 I totally agree
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Originally Posted by Knucklebus
I'm going to go on record as saying unless the gear ratios are different in the front and rear differentials, the tire diameter must be within a very small percentage of difference. Otherwise the drive train will bind up and wear itself out.
I don't think anyone would argue that point.

On the IS350 AWD, the front uses 225/40R18s, which means they have a diameter of 78.8".
The rear tires are 255/35R18s, which means they have a diameter of 78.6".

This puts them less than half a percentage point apart. So my suggestion up-thread was to stay within that on the GS.
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I ended up going with 235/35/20 and 275/30/20 both tires are within 0.4% and are only 0.1" taller compared to stock wheels/tires. Should have my Vossens mounted in the next 2-3 weeks.
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I've been running same wheel size for over a year with no issues whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by anish3232
I ended up going with 235/35/20 and 275/30/20 both tires are within 0.4% and are only 0.1" taller compared to stock wheels/tires. Should have my Vossens mounted in the next 2-3 weeks.
Pics please?
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Originally Posted by turbo1
Pics please?
Will have these mounted in the next week or 2, weather is finally warming up. Trying to decide what brand lowering springs to get, but I may wait to install the springs till later this summer.
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