bclexus

And to think, some people thought Texas was still the wild west with just horses, cattle, snakes and cowboys!

Dallas Skyline

MX73

And it's still congested as before. lol.

bclexus

Today (10/6/2021) I had the latest map update ( v19.1 map update) installed for the NAV in my 2013 GS 350.

This is the information on the service paperwork, and the information on my NAV, plus an image of my NAV screen's Map Information:


Info on the Lexus Service Paperwork states: 1 PT219-HDD07-19 GEN7 V19.1 NAV MAP US

My new Map Version Info on the NAV screen states: Map Version: 21-19-17 [2019-06-1]

My new MAP ID Info on the NAV screen states: Map Update ID: 1102-1025-0506-6217 US

Hope this helps...

Image of my NAV screen displaying Map Information after genuine Lexus v19.1 map install.

bclexus

I have my doubts you actually have a new map update installed to your NAV from using the recognized Russian pirated map software. The software pirates may have designed into their delivery device the ability to purposely alter what displays on your NAV's Map information screen to make you 'think' you have a new map installed. That wouldn't surprise me. The Russians are very clever with their illegal software piracy tactics... Not much difference in the Russians and the Chinese when it comes to stealing software or intellectual property theft...whether the real product is ever delivered to the buyer, or not.

Toyota/Lexus is said to have a very secure and highly protected multiple step process to guard against the map updates from being installed in the NAVs of multiple vehicles or vehicles for which the activated map update is not encrypted electronically as being the correct identified/linked vehicle to receive the map update.

To my knowledge the Toyota/Lexus multiple step process to install a map update to a customer's specific vehicle does not entail a 'license' or 'code' entry like the NAV screen you displayed an image of indicates. I don't know what to say - maybe your NAV still has the same map that was last installed even though you thought you were installing a new updated map with the pirated Russian map - and you just don't realize it. Dunno!

I personally would be afraid to even try installing that map update which was found by numerous sources to be deceptively Russian pirated software that is not sold or installed the same way that U.S. Lexus and Toyota dealerships sell and install the 'real' authentic/legitimate, genuine map updates. I'd be afraid I'd lose the last map update in my NAV and then be left with a worthless or bricked NAV system.

lexo98

iTrader: (2)

Does anyone have a part # for the SD Card? Maybe it’s cheaper at a Toyota dealer?

Kingmatt24

so do you know when the next map update will be available for the 2013 GS? Because there’s still buildings and stuff being built around me right now. I’d rather just wait until sometime brand new comes out rather than getting a 2019 update that’ll be outdated too

bclexus

The PT219-HDD07-19 GEN7 V19.1 NAV MAP (Map Version21-19-17) [2019-06-1] that I had installed a few days ago on October 6th is the map that became available last year in 2020 with data that is up-to-date through the end of 2019. This is the latest map there is - and it is on the fringe of the data already being two years old. I'm told there is not a newer map with more current data and not to expect one...

The parts department at my large Lexus dealership (Park Place Lexus - Plano, TX) only had one map update in stock, which I snagged. Whether there are any more map updates like I got for my GEN7 2013 GS 350 in stock at another Lexus dealership, I don't know.

The above information is based on the map update for a 2013 model year GS 350, which is a GEN7 map update delivery method - that is delivered to the car's NAV system using the dealership's technician's specialized computer via the car's USB port. There may be map updates readily available for other GEN models (that take different delivery methods) but I believe the latest map is still the v19.1. I believe the NAV map in the latest (i.e newest) GS 350 model years can now be updated by the owner instead of having to have the dealership install it. Make no doubt about it - these map updates are treated like gold bullion bars at Fort Knox. In the case of the GEN7 for the 2013 model year, like yours and mine, the map is only released from the parts department to the specialized technician that is assigned to ultimately install it only when a service order is secure which links that particular map update to a specific vehicle VIN. Somehow, some way, Lexus has since changed the way the newest, late model GS 350 owners can purchase the map update and install it themselves without having to have the dealership install for them.

I'm told there is no 2021 map update with the typical up-to-date data through 2020. Normally, a 2021 map update (if there was one) would have already come out by now - back in the early part of the year around spring time. I'm also told it is unlikely there will even be a map update that will come out next year in 2022, typically with up-to-date data through 2021. I was told there has not been any new mapping data collected by the company that does Toyota/Lexus' maps in 2021 for any of the countries worldwide that are typically mapped, which means there will not be a new updated map for 2022. Clearly, the COVID-19 worldwide pandemic has caused a lot of delays and shelved a lot of business practices and processes in virtually all sectors of business.

Kingmatt24 I believe you are out of luck getting a newer map update than the v19.1 for your 2013 GS 350. You might not even be able to find a v.19.1 map update for your GEN7 at a Lexus dealership anywhere 'if' you do change your mind and are willing to accept the v19.1 map update with [now] two year-old data.

You didn't say what map version you currently have in the NAV of your 2013 GS 350. Your 2013 GS 350, like mine, came with an OE 2012 map installed - that had data [I presume was] up-to-date through the end of 2011. If you are still using that old OE map version you may decide to change your mind and go with the 8 years of newer data the v19.1 map update offers - if you can even find one anywhere.

In my case I updated from the OE 2012 map in late 2015 with the v15.1 map update (both the map version and the year it was released matched that year) so my recent v19.1 map update makes my NAV four years more current now than it has been in recent years, which I am very pleased about. Like you, I too have a whole lot of new roads, streets, highways, tollways and Interstate modifications, plus tons of new buildings and businesses here in the DFW Metroplex.. I was very glad to get four additional years of current data...even though the 2019 data in v19.1 is already almost two years out-of-date as of today.

Unfortunately those roads, buildings and stuff being built around you will not be available in a map update for years to come. There's usually at least a 2-3 year delay after new roads and buildings are built before they are on a map update. Toyota/Lexus uses HERE Technologies for their maps - as does Garmin, the GPS device experts. And even though Garmin is in the business of using maps and GPS in the auto, aviation and marine devices they sell, HERE can take up to 4-5 years to catch-up with new roads, buildings and related data (addresses, phone numbers, etc.) HERE supplies map content for Alpine, BMW, Mercedes, Garmin, Hyundai, Pioneer, Volkswagen and Toyota/Lexus, among other car companies and enterprises.



HERE states the following: HERE map data is updated for around a period of three years from the date of purchase of the vehicle and is performed at the time of service from the car dealer. This tells me that HERE is at least 3 years behind on map data gathering.


There's nothing worse than driving on a road or highway that is not on the NAV map - trying to get somewhere important in a hurry - because it shows that you are not driving on a road, but are driving on water or barren land, usually with no adjacent roads or highways displayed nearby. You're in 'no man's land' and don't know what to do to get back on the correct track for your destination. Not a good feeling!

Sorry 'bout the long response, but I hope the details provided helps you make sense of what's going on with map updates.

Neil64

How did you folks pull up your current map version?

jkeller

I've been thinking about updating my 2014 since I'm planning on keeping it now for 3-4 years. It's funny when I'm on a toll road in Austin or I-11 that goes from Hoover dam to Vegas bypassing Boulder City, the map shows me in the middle of nowhere.

bclexus

To find out what NAV map version you currently have in your car's NAV system: NAV > Options > Map Data

Watch the video below (I set the beginning of the video to start just before the 'Map Data' is selected.)

Neil64

Thanks...I'll try it later today.

bclexus

Neil64 - with your 2013 GS450h, unless you (or a previous owner) had a Lexus dealership's service department update your car's NAV map your car has the OE 2012 map, which all 2013 model 4GSs received. The 2012 map has up-to-date mapping and POI data through the end of 2011, which is now 10 years old.

A lot of people think, or expect, that a new or CPO vehicle sitting on the dealer's lot has had [or should have] the NAV map updated - but that does not happen. I have never heard of a Lexus dealership updating the NAV map without a specific work order for a NAV map update from the owner.

Neil64

BClexus,

I have no NAV > Options > Map Data. I looked in every menu and I have no way to pull up the current map version. Could this be because my car has never been upgraded? It would be nice to confirm what version is running prior to spending $ to upgrade.

Thoughts?

bclexus

Neil64,

Sometimes when having the vehicle serviced a firmware update is done, which can change how various features are selected.

Try this: Menu > Info/Apps > Map Data Button

Also, look at this video (I have the video set to start just before Navigation Options is selected from the Navigation screen) in case your process to obtain your Map Data is like the video and not how I obtain my Map Data in my 2013 GS 350.


I'll be interested to find out if you are able to find the v2019 map update for your 2013 GS 350.

bclexus

Neil64 - Were you able to access the Map Data in your NAV to find out which map version you currently have?