V6 to V8 Conversion
#31
It doesn't stand a chance against the sub-two-second Tesla Roadster 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds, 0 - 100 mph in 4.2 seconds, a quarter-mile in 8.8 seconds and 250+ mph top speed...all with a whopping 7,376 pound-feet of tire shredding torque at the wheels. And to think that today's fastest supercars can only muster less than 1,000 pound-feet of torque.
Not to mention there's a pretty good chance that they will cease to exist 5 years from now, given Musk's rapidly diminishing sanity. Their new chief accountant or whoever just dumped his post after only being there a month. Probably because he doesn't want to get indicted.
-Mike
#32
#33
Too bad the tesla is a soulless, glorified golf cart that nobody wants except for some hipsters and moonbats. Also there is no way in hell a Tesla is getting 620mi range booting it around like that constantly.
Not to mention there's a pretty good chance that they will cease to exist 5 years from now, given Musk's rapidly diminishing sanity. Their new chief accountant or whoever just dumped his post after only being there a month. Probably because he doesn't want to get indicted.
-Mike
Not to mention there's a pretty good chance that they will cease to exist 5 years from now, given Musk's rapidly diminishing sanity. Their new chief accountant or whoever just dumped his post after only being there a month. Probably because he doesn't want to get indicted.
-Mike
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Im2bz2p345 (09-10-18)
#34
Current battery technology sucks. I was at a electric vehicle conference this year and there was talk of using liquid coolant in the charge cables to keep things from melting while supercharging cars of the future.
Until someone strikes gold with solid state battery’s ICE cars are safe. The hybrid everything will prevail for a least 15 years until they can make battery charging times similar to filling up a typical car and driving 300-400 miles.
My only real question is with lithium being a very limited and finite natural resource where will all this lithium come from for the 100’s of millions of cars that will be produced in the near future. Not to mention the trucks, trains and ships and possibly planes. I just don’t see it being enough to go around. We will need to use something else in battery’s or hydrogen fuel cell could play a major role.
Until someone strikes gold with solid state battery’s ICE cars are safe. The hybrid everything will prevail for a least 15 years until they can make battery charging times similar to filling up a typical car and driving 300-400 miles.
My only real question is with lithium being a very limited and finite natural resource where will all this lithium come from for the 100’s of millions of cars that will be produced in the near future. Not to mention the trucks, trains and ships and possibly planes. I just don’t see it being enough to go around. We will need to use something else in battery’s or hydrogen fuel cell could play a major role.
Last edited by bclexus; 09-07-18 at 12:00 PM.
#35
something. Something that can be replenished quickly that generates electricity onboard. Stacking a crapload of 18650 LION flashlight batteries in a matrix in a car (what tesla basically does now) is basically rolling lunacy.
Also unless gas is like 10 bucks a gallon or something, nobody is going to care about electric cars, outside of moonbats, hipsters, or people running self driving car services/uber/etc. Even a Prius makes more sense than the current iteration of this crap does. At least with a Prius I can refuel it anywhere and keep going.
-Mike
#36
In most states the governrment can't even make the trains run on time or keep potholes filled, what makes you think they're going to be able to manage something like that... LOL
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sam430 (09-08-18)
#37
Not with batteries it's not. Or at least not "batteries as a power source" as we know them. What tesla is making now is basically stopgap garbage. Tesla is the CFL bulb of automobile development. In order for electric anything to be viable you really need a fuel cell or
something. Something that can be replenished quickly that generates electricity onboard. Stacking a crapload of 18650 LION flashlight batteries in a matrix in a car (what tesla basically does now) is basically rolling lunacy.
Also unless gas is like 10 bucks a gallon or something, nobody is going to care about electric cars, outside of moonbats, hipsters, or people running self driving car services/uber/etc. Even a Prius makes more sense than the current iteration of this crap does. At least with a Prius I can refuel it anywhere and keep going.
-Mike
something. Something that can be replenished quickly that generates electricity onboard. Stacking a crapload of 18650 LION flashlight batteries in a matrix in a car (what tesla basically does now) is basically rolling lunacy.
Also unless gas is like 10 bucks a gallon or something, nobody is going to care about electric cars, outside of moonbats, hipsters, or people running self driving car services/uber/etc. Even a Prius makes more sense than the current iteration of this crap does. At least with a Prius I can refuel it anywhere and keep going.
-Mike
I think you'll reflect back on your beliefs in the future to see that you were as wrong as the:
• People that said the automobile would never replace horses and mules.
• People that said wiring across the United States for Alexander Graham Bell's telephone invention was absolute lunacy.
• People that said there was no way that it would be commonplace for people to have a personal computer in their house.
• People that said it was foolish to think that practically everyone would have a portable cell phone and be able to use it like **** Tracy's wristwatch phone or Get Smart's shoe phone.
• People that said it was insanity to install enough cell towers across the U.S. for wireless cell phones.
• People that thought it was stupid to think fast food like McDonald's hamburgers would become popular.
• People that said DNA would never be used to prosecute someone for a criminal act.
• People that said Kodak film for cameras will always be used.
• People that thought 33 rpm, 45 rpm & 78 rpm records, 8-tracks, floppy discs, VHS/VCRs, Betamax, compact cassettes, etc. will never become obsolete.
• People that said phone booths will always be needed.
• And the list goes on and on and on...
Last edited by bclexus; 09-07-18 at 01:55 PM.
#38
Not with batteries it's not. Or at least not "batteries as a power source" as we know them. What tesla is making now is basically stopgap garbage. Tesla is the CFL bulb of automobile development. In order for electric anything to be viable you really need a fuel cell or
something. Something that can be replenished quickly that generates electricity onboard. Stacking a crapload of 18650 LION flashlight batteries in a matrix in a car (what tesla basically does now) is basically rolling lunacy.
Also unless gas is like 10 bucks a gallon or something, nobody is going to care about electric cars, outside of moonbats, hipsters, or people running self driving car services/uber/etc. Even a Prius makes more sense than the current iteration of this crap does. At least with a Prius I can refuel it anywhere and keep going.
-Mike
something. Something that can be replenished quickly that generates electricity onboard. Stacking a crapload of 18650 LION flashlight batteries in a matrix in a car (what tesla basically does now) is basically rolling lunacy.
Also unless gas is like 10 bucks a gallon or something, nobody is going to care about electric cars, outside of moonbats, hipsters, or people running self driving car services/uber/etc. Even a Prius makes more sense than the current iteration of this crap does. At least with a Prius I can refuel it anywhere and keep going.
-Mike
Last edited by bclexus; 09-07-18 at 07:04 PM.
#39
At some point the price of gas vs the price of electric vehicles will make fiscal sense. Range isn't an issue for probably 90% of people who drive less than 100 miles a day. Truth be told, I would buy an electric vehicle if it the price is right for my driving style.
#40
Mike -
I think you'll reflect back on your beliefs in the future to see that you were as wrong as the:
• People that said the automobile would never replace horses and mules.
• People that said wiring across the United States for Alexander Graham Bell's telephone invention was absolute lunacy.
• People that said there was no way that it would be commonplace for people to have a personal computer in their house.
• People that said it was foolish to think that practically everyone would have a portable cell phone and be able to use it like **** Tracy's wristwatch phone or Get Smart's shoe phone.
• People that said it was insanity to install enough cell towers across the U.S. for wireless cell phones.
• And the list goes on and on and on...
I think you'll reflect back on your beliefs in the future to see that you were as wrong as the:
• People that said the automobile would never replace horses and mules.
• People that said wiring across the United States for Alexander Graham Bell's telephone invention was absolute lunacy.
• People that said there was no way that it would be commonplace for people to have a personal computer in their house.
• People that said it was foolish to think that practically everyone would have a portable cell phone and be able to use it like **** Tracy's wristwatch phone or Get Smart's shoe phone.
• People that said it was insanity to install enough cell towers across the U.S. for wireless cell phones.
• And the list goes on and on and on...
Personally, I want a Star Trek-ish transporter to replace travel. Breakfast in a Paris French cafe, dinner in a Sicily Italian restaurant and a weekend in Tahiti.
Electric cars will remain a niche product until there is a quantum leap in energy storage that can trounce gasoline or diesel. Electric cars are evolutionarily the equivalent of the model T, in their infancy.
Elon Musk is doing it backwards. If you want mass adoption of something, you make it inexpensive and appealing to the masses, not a niche product that has an exorbitant price and limited market. See model T above.
#41
That's true for the vast majority of people. I probably average driving less than 30 miles a day, and I rarely drive more than 120 miles in one day.
#42
Elon Musk isn't doing it backwards. If you look at the history of inventions that we now call common day items, things are always expensive early on. Computers were thousands of dollars, Plasma TVs were over $20K early on, cell phones were $1K+ devices, flying was for the super super rich, refrigerators were only for the wealthy, air conditioning? Forget about it,... Now everything I mention can be had for dirt cheap and are common items. You need the early adopters to pay the price to be on the bleeding edge. Then it becomes cheap and comes down to the common man.
Remember when only luxury cars had ABS and traction control? GPS navigation?
Remember when only luxury cars had ABS and traction control? GPS navigation?
#43
Elon Musk isn't doing it backwards. If you look at the history of inventions that we now call common day items, things are always expensive early on. Computers were thousands of dollars, Plasma TVs were over $20K early on, cell phones were $1K+ devices, flying was for the super super rich, refrigerators were only for the wealthy, air conditioning? Forget about it,... Now everything I mention can be had for dirt cheap and are common items. You need the early adopters to pay the price to be on the bleeding edge. Then it becomes cheap and comes down to the common man.
Remember when only luxury cars had ABS and traction control? GPS navigation?
Remember when only luxury cars had ABS and traction control? GPS navigation?
#44
Plasma TVs were hindered by high costs as well. Many people stuck to their tube TVs as $20K to $100K was a bit hindering on the common man. Hell even LED TVs were hindering the common man when they first came out. And now we have 55" flat screen TVs for a few hundred bucks. Someone has to be an early adopter.
Your model T example is more an exception than a rule and would never fly in this day and age. It was a simple machine that could be cheaply made thanks to Ford's revolutionary assembly line process. But that is another topic for another day. Name one thing that is the equivalent of the model T in this day and age?
Your model T example is more an exception than a rule and would never fly in this day and age. It was a simple machine that could be cheaply made thanks to Ford's revolutionary assembly line process. But that is another topic for another day. Name one thing that is the equivalent of the model T in this day and age?