Did I say it would happen with current battery technology or charging infrastructure? No, I did not! You may be right, but as I said; there's little doubt it WILL happen that all electric motorized vehicles will become the norm...

 

Personally I agree with the Tesla model. You get rich people to pay for your R&D and so they can be the first to get it. Then it goes to the masses. Now Tesla isn't the only electric game in town. How is the Leaf and Volt doing?

 

The Volt is doing pretty good and you see Leafs everywhere.

Interestingly enough, despite Tesla's factory problems, they actually outproduce all EV's that are headed to North American (China has a lot non-Tesla EVs). Despite the Leaf being around for so long and the Bolt being available before the Model 3 at the expected price.

 

Agreeing with it doesn't make it the best choice. I'd think that if you remove the government subsidies, all EVs take a nose dive in sales. Tesla, having nothing non-EV to fall back on, is in dire straights. I think Musk said as much but then again maybe he had just taken a big drag off a blunt.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...531-story.html

 

Tesla has an estimated $4.9 billion in government support and a $10 billion personal stake from Elon Musk, but the market cap is around $50 billion, which happens to be the same market cap as General Motors and $12 billion more than Ford. The government can pull the $4.9 billion of support (representing only 10% of the company's value) now that Tesla has found their footing and you still have a major car maker, though highly leveraged with bonds, that the other car makers are trying to catch or surpass in terms of all electric vehicles. I say 'Good job Tesla', because what Tesla has done will only make the other car makers work harder and make better vehicles. Tesla championed the high profile and serious start in bringing all electric vehicles to a level of excitement for many people and followed by all.

 

I agree with it because it's the best model. LOL

 

https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2018/09...mw-car-lineup/

Tesla seems to be doing just fine.

 

Sales revenue is just one factor...but imagine if they sell all these cars but still don't have a profit because of their high costs/expenditures/debt! Tesla isn't a company based on strong financials...its a company that appeals to the senses at a very high cost.

Imagine the news if Lexus sold thousands of ES sedans this month but didn't make a profit---just where would folks think they were getting the money to fund continuous operation and production of the ES? Lexus killed off the HS and the CT sedans here in the US most likely b/c it cost more to build/produce those cars than the revenue that came in from them...then, they instead focused on areas of the market that would turn a profit at a price point that would sell (with the development of SUVs like the NX and UX).

 

Tesla will stay around as long as investors are willing to set cash on fire. [rofl]

-Mike

 

I came in here for the V8 swap and you guys are still talking about saving gas. I'll show my way out

 

Absolutely! lol

 

We skip around back-n-forth aimlessly here.

 

You do realize Tesla does make profit on every M3 sold right? That's why the $35000 M3 doesn't exist, because it would lose money at that price point.
https://jalopnik.com/engineering-fir...-li-1827632866

The company as a whole doesn't make money because they're putting money into developing new things and building factories. But each unit sold does represent money made.

 

I'm waiting for the train to get back on the rails. Letting all the Tesla hate come out first.

 

They have yet to turn a profit though. That cannot continue indefinitely no matter how much money you have. I prefer my autos to be made by people that are in it for a profit and therefore have to be confident they will have repeat business.