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09-10-18, 10:09 AM
#61
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There's little doubt that all electric motorized vehicles will become the norm replacing the petrol piston engine. It's just a matter of time...and it has been a long time coming, but I think it's about to blast-off much like radio, television, cell phones, personal computers, etc. all took-off in its heyday.
Last edited by bclexus; 09-10-18 at 01:35 PM.
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09-10-18, 11:51 AM
#62
Again, to my point, Tesla didn't start with an entry level market car and has used the government to prop up their bloated model. Lexus, et al, used the econoboxes to generate the capital to introduce the luxury brands with great success. Without the government subsidies, Tesla is dead, like the Tucker, Hudson, Edsel, Oldsmobile and Pontiac. Being a great car isn't enough to survive, which I'm not convinced it is.
09-10-18, 11:59 AM
#63
The Volt is doing pretty good and you see Leafs everywhere.
Interestingly enough, despite Tesla's factory problems, they actually outproduce all EV's that are headed to North American (China has a lot non-Tesla EVs). Despite the Leaf being around for so long and the Bolt being available before the Model 3 at the expected price.
Interestingly enough, despite Tesla's factory problems, they actually outproduce all EV's that are headed to North American (China has a lot non-Tesla EVs). Despite the Leaf being around for so long and the Bolt being available before the Model 3 at the expected price.
09-10-18, 02:20 PM
#64
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...531-story.html
09-10-18, 04:51 PM
#65
Lexus Test Driver
Agreeing with it doesn't make it the best choice. I'd think that if you remove the government subsidies, all EVs take a nose dive in sales. Tesla, having nothing non-EV to fall back on, is in dire straights. I think Musk said as much but then again maybe he had just taken a big drag off a blunt.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...531-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...531-story.html
Last edited by bclexus; 09-10-18 at 06:28 PM.
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09-11-18, 06:50 AM
#66
Agreeing with it doesn't make it the best choice. I'd think that if you remove the government subsidies, all EVs take a nose dive in sales. Tesla, having nothing non-EV to fall back on, is in dire straights. I think Musk said as much but then again maybe he had just taken a big drag off a blunt.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...531-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...531-story.html
09-11-18, 10:43 AM
#68
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Imagine the news if Lexus sold thousands of ES sedans this month but didn't make a profit---just where would folks think they were getting the money to fund continuous operation and production of the ES? Lexus killed off the HS and the CT sedans here in the US most likely b/c it cost more to build/produce those cars than the revenue that came in from them...then, they instead focused on areas of the market that would turn a profit at a price point that would sell (with the development of SUVs like the NX and UX).
09-11-18, 11:14 AM
#69
Sales revenue is just one factor...but imagine if they sell all these cars but still don't have a profit because of their high costs/expenditures/debt! Tesla isn't a company based on strong financials...its a company that appeals to the senses at a very high cost.
Imagine the news if Lexus sold thousands of ES sedans this month but didn't make a profit---just where would folks think they were getting the money to fund continuous operation and production of the ES? Lexus killed off the HS and the CT sedans here in the US most likely b/c it cost more to build/produce those cars than the revenue that came in from them...then, they instead focused on areas of the market that would turn a profit at a price point that would sell (with the development of SUVs like the NX and UX).
Imagine the news if Lexus sold thousands of ES sedans this month but didn't make a profit---just where would folks think they were getting the money to fund continuous operation and production of the ES? Lexus killed off the HS and the CT sedans here in the US most likely b/c it cost more to build/produce those cars than the revenue that came in from them...then, they instead focused on areas of the market that would turn a profit at a price point that would sell (with the development of SUVs like the NX and UX).
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09-11-18, 11:34 AM
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09-11-18, 12:35 PM
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09-11-18, 12:54 PM
#73
Sales revenue is just one factor...but imagine if they sell all these cars but still don't have a profit because of their high costs/expenditures/debt! Tesla isn't a company based on strong financials...its a company that appeals to the senses at a very high cost.
Imagine the news if Lexus sold thousands of ES sedans this month but didn't make a profit---just where would folks think they were getting the money to fund continuous operation and production of the ES? Lexus killed off the HS and the CT sedans here in the US most likely b/c it cost more to build/produce those cars than the revenue that came in from them...then, they instead focused on areas of the market that would turn a profit at a price point that would sell (with the development of SUVs like the NX and UX).
Imagine the news if Lexus sold thousands of ES sedans this month but didn't make a profit---just where would folks think they were getting the money to fund continuous operation and production of the ES? Lexus killed off the HS and the CT sedans here in the US most likely b/c it cost more to build/produce those cars than the revenue that came in from them...then, they instead focused on areas of the market that would turn a profit at a price point that would sell (with the development of SUVs like the NX and UX).
https://jalopnik.com/engineering-fir...-li-1827632866
The company as a whole doesn't make money because they're putting money into developing new things and building factories. But each unit sold does represent money made.
09-11-18, 01:24 PM
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09-11-18, 01:57 PM
#75
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