np20412

Not rotating the tires contributes to premature tire wear and is written into literally every tire warranty. If you don't rotate tires, the warranty is void.

pqn628

I had the OEM Bridgestone Potenza with at least 6/9 thread left on the tires and got rid of them because I didnt like how hard they ride.

I ended up getting Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ All Season (245/40/19 and 275/35/19) and its a completely different car now. It rides much smoother and quieter than the Bridgestones.

I got them at costco for around 950 installed. They are running an instant 70 dollar rebate on 4 Michelin and 1 penny install per tire.

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pqn628

I get my alignment done every 6 months or whenever I swap out my wheels/tires.

np20412

That's exactly why the warranty is half what it normally is if you have rears that are a different size.. . I'm not sure what we are even arguing about anymore.

chinee

Guys... I hate to point fingers, but your statements are not entirely true.

Not true, most tire warranties provide for prorated replacement in the event of premature wear.

I've seen many manufacturers, Goodyear, Pirelli, Michelin, to name a few, that do adjust the tread wear warranty for staggered tires, they don't void the warranties based solely on non-rotation.

Only the F Sport RWD are staggered and therefore non-rotatable. (IIRC)


If your dealership does not honor treadwear warranties and only apply the warranty for defects, I will run, run, run away from that dealer. That crazy driver statement, although sometimes true, is a cop-out reason for the dealership not to honor the warranty. If any service advisor used that line on me, I'd be pissed and would IMMEDIATELY start a big ruckus in the middle of service area. It's not a dealer warranty... it's a manufacturer warranty for heaven's sake.


In Florida, tires do not last long, in fact the folks at the tire stores and at the dealerships enjoy sharing that fact with all customers, enticing them to purchase add-on packages and the like. And I cannot remember the last time I purchased tires at full price, without an adjustment for premature wear. I've been using Goodyear for the past 15yrs or so, and I will not consider tires that do not have a treadwear warranty( typically high performance tires). Wait... the last time I had to pay full price was when my alignment went out and I was too busy to go in... those wore unevenly and were not covered by the treadwear warranty.

It must be a full moon tonight... I normally don't jump up on my soapbox too often... hope I didn't offend anyone.. Cheers!

bclexus

Only on the GS 350 F-Sport model are the wheels/tires staggered.

bclexus

That's bull! You lack knowledge about which you speak. In other words - you don't know what you're talking about. That kind of an answer (they won't do anything) would be given to someone that obviously enjoys spinning his tires all the time.

You may want to talk with Discount Tire or Tire Rack and have them explain to you the warranty on tires that prematurely wear out before the tire manufacturer's mileage warranty. I personally have had many Michelin tires replaced and received the price difference for the mileage that I failed to get based on the tire's mileage warranty. There has never been any question whatsoever about receiving an allowance for the mileage I failed to get.

np20412

In the context of this entire thread, that is what I was trying to say. For cars with staggered tires, the warranty is adjusted DOWN directly due to the fact that the tires cannot be rotated.

For cars with square set up, lots of warranties are completely void if evidence is discovered that the tires were not rotated.

chinee

Yep, I can definitely get behind that statement. When I was a young gun, BJ's Wholesale denied me warranty due to too-few rotations... that never happened again.


Hmmm... One of the first things I noticed with my F Sport was the firmer/harsher ride when compared to my previous non-F Sport. And I have the Potenzas, maybe that's the main reason for the stiffness rather than the suspension... hmmm...

DanoATX

Not sure if this will help, but when I needed tires on my GS200T F-Sport I chose sizes 10mm bigger than stock. For example the front tires on my GS were 235/40-19. By stepping up to a 245/40-19 the selection of tires increased, and prices decreased. It was easier to accept a limited warranty because of staggering when the tires are cheaper.

Of course I never went to the dealer for tires, their prices were ridiculous. The dealer quoted me around $2000 for a replacement set of tires. I was able to get a set at Discount Tire for under $1000.

mylehigh1

I test drove a non-F Sport GS 350 first, same year and mileage as the F Sport I purchased. I rejected the non-F-sport because the ride was as mushy as my father's Oldsmobile. So the F-Sport has a firmer ride all by itself, regardless of the rubber.

ISterguy

Yes, kudos to Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus! Best tires I have ever had. Michelin, Dunlap & Continental are expensive and wear too quickly.