bclexus

It was only seven paragraphs! It must not have been interesting to you. Was the video easier on your mind?

azipod

less is more. Will help to get your point across next time.

bclexus

Since I was the one providing the information it was up to me to decide whether it was covered efficiently and adequately.

azipod

yes. But u didn’t get your point across.

bclexus

What do you think my point was?

I just now realized that DaveGS4 had told me not to respond to you in the future...

charley95

Great info. BC! I consider you the Shell Answer Man of Club Lexus! Probably not too many people here remember him.

bclexus

That's funny!

Thanks Charley!

imjohnphan

Man lifetime is only around 140k miles? I personally have 3 vehicles at or over that mileage and 2 others in the family with also over that mileage lol. My 2GS is almost double its life now

bclexus

You have to admit - your situation is highly, highly unusual. Most people never keep a vehicle to even 70,000 miles.

bob256k

My Honda is pushing 300k miles only done normal maintenance the only things that broke are the rear door auto lock and the starter at 285k

drgrant

For Lexus owners? Not so unusual, that's kind of the entire point of the brand. You can run most of the cars they make for 200-300K without getting hosed on TCO in the process. I always tell people, if you're not going to keep it long you can pick whatever you want, because you'll be throwing it away before it gets expensive, but for the rest of us that actually drive cars, the field narrows considerably. Dumping a car at anything less than 150 is basically setting cash on fire, unless it's just plain old (15+ years) and/or has seen a weird duty cycle (eg, like city only driving).

I see why Toyota/Lexus has their lifetime fill thing, though. Most of these Aisin boxes won't "fail hard" even in 200K, so they just write off any issues. Even when I traded in my camry at 260K the trans had the original fill and only had minor issues... (you would get a subtle flutter, that most people wouldn't notice... transitioning from 4 > 5th gear) . I could have nursed that thing to 300 no problem.

-Mike

imjohnphan

I do admit this type of mileage is not common however there are many Lexus cars out there well over 100k. If I was only going to keep a car for 70K miles I could've gotten any other car brand and not even sweat the reliability. The main reason going with Lexus over the years has been purely because I considered them to be the most reliable brand out there lasting well beyond 100k with no real problems.

hypervish

Not unusual at all (take a look at my signature) - if I didn't plan to keep a vehicle past 70k, I'd be driving a BMW. There is a reason why we all chose to buy a Lexus, and for many that's reliability.

UDel

Where are you getting that? With leasing so popular, there is a large number of original owners turning the cars back in before that mileage but many people still buy cars and keep them well past 70K miles, those lease returns are bought by people and driven well past 70K miles, it is not like once a vehicle gets to 70K miles, it goes to the scrap yard, they are bought and driven, just about all 5, 6 year old + cars for sale have well over 70K miles.

bclexus

It's true that the average vehicle on the road today is about 12 years old, which likely has over 100k miles on the odometer. A 2009 study found that there were far more vehicles younger than 10 years of age on the road than older, but that trend has reversed as of 2017 data: cars 10 or more years old now outnumber those newer. Both studies noted fewer eight-year-old vehicles on the road than vehicles aged nine to 11 years of age, with the 2017 study expanding that group to 14 years. Less than a third of the vehicles in use today are five years old or newer, while less than one percent are 25 years of age or older.

What I think is interesting is how long new vehicles are kept by the original owner. In 2006 the average length of ownership was 52 months whereas today ownership has extended to about 80 months. The vehicle brand that is kept the longest is [of course] Toyota! But since Toyota tries to differentiate its luxury Lexus brand from its Toyota brand another interesting bit of information is revealed. While the Toyota brand may be #1 on the list for the longest kept vehicle, Lexus vehicles don't even make the list. But why is that? The reason why is because most people that buy a Lexus are buying not only the built-in [Toyota] reliability, but they are also buying a powerful luxury name brand. People that buy luxury brand vehicles usually do not want to drive old, outdated luxury vehicles, therefore original Lexus owners usually don't keep them very long instead choosing to always drive a fresh new model. The second or third owner of a [used] Lexus may indeed keep their vehicle even longer than the 80 months cited above, but I would say the average original owner of a new Lexus keeps it a much shorter time.