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Old 12-04-19, 09:44 AM
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Also, I failed to mention that you should; "avoid driving, moving, or test-driving vehicles equipped with high-performance summer-only tires below 40º F as operating at these temperatures can cause damage to the tires".
Originally Posted by donkiboy
I haven't heard of damage incurring in this manner. I've got old Acura TL with summer performance tires and its my daily even through freezing winter here in NJ (albeit poor traction and harsh ride).
I'd have to guess that many AWD performance cars like WRX, STI, EVO simply run their stock summer tires through winters.
Yes, it's a known fact that summer tires crack in cold weather when the rubber becomes hard and brittle ('Glass Transition') like inflexible plastic.

General Motors issued GM Service Bulletin #13-03-10-001D Information on Tire Cold Weather Cracking. This particular GM Service Bulletin was issued many years ago but was revised in 2016 from the previously issued Service Bulletin only to update model years.

The GM Service Bulletin states reduced traction beginning at 40° F, and to not drive or even move vehicles with summer tires below 20° F, and to not even store summer tires below 20° F.

Summer tire cracking has been known to happen at the threshold of 'Glass Transition', well above the 20° F temperature in which vehicles with summer tires should not be driven on, not be moved and not even stored. The advice at 20° F is DO NOT MOVE THIS VEHICLE! Better advice would be DO NOT DRIVE THIS VEHICLE WHEN TEMPERATURE IS UNDER 40°.

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Old 12-04-19, 10:10 AM
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Tire Rack states:
If ambient temperatures drop to near- or below-freezing, driving or rolling a vehicle equipped with summer performance tires risks the possibility of tread compound cracking. Tread compound cracking is a permanent condition that requires the tires to be replaced. The other condition that can be caused by running summer performance tires in cold temperatures is the possibility of chipping away the edges of the tread blocks.

Reference: DON'T DRIVE SUMMER PERFORMANCE TIRES IN COLD TEMPERATURES
Old 12-04-19, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by er34
Great video and one of the reasons I just installed Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires for my M340 which had summer tires on there. Much more confident in driving in cold wet or snowy weather.
Old 12-04-19, 02:37 PM
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bclexus - you'be made your point man. Relax Cold weather + summer tires = you're gonna have a bad time. We get it now
Old 12-04-19, 03:13 PM
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You could probably learn a thing or two from bclexus from many of his posts. He provides great info. here on 4GS's. What makes you think he's not relaxed?
Old 12-04-19, 03:21 PM
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oh just poking a little fun! I think we established in the first few posts that summer tires don't work well in winter. Now we have enough info to write an educational whitepaper!
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Originally Posted by PlPete
oh just poking a little fun! I think we established in the first few posts that summer tires don't work well in winter. Now we have enough info to write an educational whitepaper!


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You don't look relaxed BC.
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Old 12-04-19, 05:25 PM
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Got a Staggered set (245/40/19 and 275/35/19) of the Continental DWS06 at my local Mavis (seems like a national chain) for $833 installed plus a $75 mail-in rebate coming my way. Pretty good All-Season Tire. I thought about getting tires on Amazon and even a Tire Rack etc, but I just rather go to my local store. As it is, I had to go back one more time in order to check on the balance. Much more comfortable knowing that any issues that would come up, they would take care of it.
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Originally Posted by charley95
You don't look relaxed BC.
I'm relaxed...



Old 12-12-19, 06:23 PM
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So I had the General G-Max AS 5 tires installed this evening and my initial thoughts are that they made the car feel so much smoother than the POS Nexen that someone had put on the car. I am eager to see what the next few months bring and I will be doing about 500 miles to Charleston SC in a week or so....stay tuned.
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