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Why are the OEM rear Rotors more expensive than the front?

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Old 01-27-20, 02:53 AM
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Default Why are the OEM rear Rotors more expensive than the front?

I thought this was odd, considering the front rotors are much heavier and thicker. All in $380.45 shipped to my door, discount parts monster seems to have the best price shipped. I already have the pads and shims purchased some time ago, plan on doing full brake job myself in a few months. These part numbers are for my 2013 GS 450h, might be different for your car. the front rotors are 69.24 each and the rears are $86.46. The front/rear pads and shim sets I paid $186 a while ago. So $566.45 in parts for a full front and rear brake job is not bad at all with oem parts.




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I paid $100 for my economy seat. The guy to the right paid $150. The guy to my left paid $75. Why? That's just how business is done.

Seriously, no idea why Lexus made the rear brakes more expensive. Perhaps the front rotors are shared with another car so it's cheaper to source. Could be anything. They just do what they do.
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How long do OEM rotors typically last, mileage wise?
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Originally Posted by OUT FOX EM
How long do OEM rotors typically last, mileage wise?
They are pretty much "lifetime" rotors since its a Hybrid. They go for a very long time -- Had a Prius many years ago with over 100k on the odometer -- the front rotors were still like new and the pads still had quite a bit more than 50% left. Of course, it's also dependent on the driver. Two-feet drivers will probably wear out their brakes much earlier.
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Originally Posted by azipod
They are pretty much "lifetime" rotors since its a Hybrid. They go for a very long time -- Had a Prius many years ago with over 100k on the odometer -- the front rotors were still like new and the pads still had quite a bit more than 50% left. Of course, it's also dependent on the driver. Two-feet drivers will probably wear out their brakes much earlier.
What about non-hybrid?
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Originally Posted by OUT FOX EM
What about non-hybrid?
Depends: weather conditions and salt, prompt pad replacement.
I need new rear rotors: one of them is shot from a delayed pad replacement, and they both are looking old from lots of winter driving.
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Originally Posted by OUT FOX EM
What about non-hybrid?
I have 116k on my 14 GS with original rotors. Im starting to get a little vibration when braking hard. I ordered OEM front rotors/pads yesterday.
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My car has the original rotors since new, now 100k miles. I had to replace a stud recently and took a descent size mallet to knock the rotors off. There are a couple nicks in the rotor on the side you don't see, but I think it will be fine, I might change just the front.

You guys are right my rotors don't have to be replaced, there is no significant lip/edge on them and overall they are in good shape. At first I somehow thought there would be an extra ring of rust on the rotor after replacing, but I was looking at it all wrong. The wide of the pads are exactly the same so it will have the same contact as the old pads, but on the new ones the vertical contact area is smaller, as the pads wear down they make more contact with the rotor, since it's tapered.

So yeah this time I might just leave the rotors alone, or just do the front. @azipod is right they will probably last a long time, the hybrid drive train does some of the braking from the regen and I'm not an aggressive driver.

@jonathancl you could pop your rotors off, clean up the rust, and repaint them if they are still within spec, save yourself some money.

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Originally Posted by mikesd1980
I have 116k on my 14 GS with original rotors. Im starting to get a little vibration when braking hard. I ordered OEM front rotors/pads yesterday.
Yeah that is a good reason to change you rotors.
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Originally Posted by OUT FOX EM
What about non-hybrid?
As long as the rotors don't have a significant lip on the edge and the thickness is within factory spec, and no vibration in the braking system, there is no need to change them.

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From the factory manual to inspect rotor thickness, if it falls below the minimum, they recommend changing the rotor. The thickness requirements are the same for f-sport, hybrid, and non-hybird.

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Originally Posted by azipod
I paid $100 for my economy seat. The guy to the right paid $150. The guy to my left paid $75. Why? That's just how business is done.

Seriously, no idea why Lexus made the rear brakes more expensive. Perhaps the front rotors are shared with another car so it's cheaper to source. Could be anything. They just do what they do.
The front and rear braking system is our cars are shared with several other Toyota and Lexus vehciles. That's probably the reason the individual cost for the oem rotors are relatively cheap compared to other luxury brands, but the rear rotor cost still puzzles me, lol
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Maybe the OEM rear rotors are more expensive because they don't sell near as many of them compared to the OEM front rotors. Higher volume usually helps bring the cost down.
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Originally Posted by bclexus
Maybe the OEM rear rotors are more expensive because they don't sell near as many of them compared to the OEM front rotors. Higher volume usually helps bring the cost down.
Yeah idk, any other car I've ever owned or did a brake job on the front rotors cost more than the rears.
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Here is a tip for the brake job. The rotors have two screw holes near the center. It takes a M8 x 1.25 bolt, I think same bolt on the front splash guard in front of the front wheels, not 100% sure.
You can easily pop the rotor off the hub by tightening this bolt into the hole(It will push the rotor from the hub the more you tighten), instead of banging on the rotor with a hammer. I marked the bolt holes in red in the pic below.



If your lazy you can buy a pack of 10 on amazon for $5.50 with 1 day shipping for prime members or get it at your local hardware store for less than a $1:
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