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Old 04-11-20, 08:13 PM
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Nope, that is but *** ugly and the GS is not dead. Maybe for the US market, but not for other markets.
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Old 04-12-20, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by websurfer
Would you buy this Fuel Cell Car that looks like this?
Just me and my opinion, but I would never buy that Toyota Mirai II HFCEV RWD, even if it was restyled into a Lexus GS.
I generally have fairly good taste for styling, so I have a good idea when styling like 5LS will fail, and while Mirai II is better than 5LS, I still don't believe it is good enough for global success.

I do believe that the GA-L sharing Mirai II HFCEV RWD will be "great" for the Japanese Domestic Market.
Japan is a small country with a high population density, hence high pollution, but the small size should be easy to set up hydrogen infrastructure.

Though EZZ and Lexus2000 are often very biased towards BEV's, one thing they are right about is that hydrogen infrastructure is very difficult to set up in the US, especially compared to BEV infrastructure.
Toyota Motor Corp has already announced plans for a "dedicated" BEV platform called e-TNGA which has midsize RWD configurations to replace the GS, although it won't be ready till at least 2024 or 2025 because TMC did not start their Electric Division until late 2016 - coincidentally the same time that the 300B 5GS program was axed!

I suspect they skipped the 300B 5GS program to focus their resources on full electrification.

Apart from announcing in general terms that a dedicated BEV midsize RWD is coming, TMC is tight lipped, and we would expect that for a model that won't be released till at least 2024-25.
Sure, there are people here who love ICEV's and V8's, but BEV's are the future...

https://insideevs.com/news/353600/to...x-global-bevs/
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Old 04-13-20, 02:55 PM
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The next gen 5GS may be a shared Mazda 6 hybrid 48 volt in-line six with RWD?
It makes sense, with Toyota Motor Corp cutting their ICEV costs as a stop gap to electrification.

RNM GS3 provides this link below:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2022/
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Old 04-13-20, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
The next gen 5GS may be a shared Mazda 6 hybrid 48 volt in-line six with RWD?
It makes sense, with Toyota Motor Corp cutting their ICEV costs as a stop gap to electrification.

RNM GS3 provides this link below:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2022/

I think that is very cool Mazda is going RWD. They really need something to make them standout from Toyota, Nissan. But it’s not like Toyota doesn’t have a new architecture that can’t be used for the future GS, IS and RC. The scalable GA-L architecture that Toyota is using for the LS, LC and Crown/Mirai really makes more sense then trying to borrow a totally foreign platform from Mazda. Not only would it have to be manufactured in a Mazda Plant. The dealers would be forced to buy new scan computers and other equipment to read and work on a new Mazda based Lexus. I like car and driver, but I don’t find this article to credible.

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Old 04-13-20, 05:58 PM
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Damn another shared platform again? I get it that it's better from the manufacturers' side of things but for enthusiast like me, I don't want to buy a Lexus GS with a Mazda or other car companies' logo under the skin.

At least the current GS is still 100% Lexus/Toyota.
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