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Old 12-14-20, 03:21 PM
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Hello everyone, I tried to search this topic and couldn’t find anything, so maybe someone might have some information or possibly a solution. My wife has a 2013 GS350 f sport and I have a 2014 GS350 f sport... my steering is tight and responsive and feels good/normal... my wife’s GS350 is very loose feeling, like it’s way too easy to turn but very responsive, it’s not tight like my gs350... could the front bushings be wore out? The tires are new, the front end is all tight but just super easy to steer, is there a way to make the steering more tight? My steering feels like a sports car and hers feels like and old school Cadillac with power steering lol!

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Old 12-15-20, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Coolj5
Hello everyone, I tried to search this topic and couldn’t find anything, so maybe someone might have some information or possibly a solution. My wife has a 2013 GS350 f sport and I have a 2014 GS350 f sport... my steering is tight and responsive and feels good/normal... my wife’s GS350 is very loose feeling, like it’s way too easy to turn but very responsive, it’s not tight like my gs350... could the front bushings be wore out? The tires are new, the front end is all tight but just super easy to steer, is there a way to make the steering more tight? My steering feels like a sports car and hers feels like and old school Cadillac with power steering lol!
Not bushings. What mode does she have her car set to? If it is ECO or Normal and not Sport, it is probably due to that. It will be easier to turn and less road feel, especially when compared to your F Sport. Try putting it in Sport (or Sport+ if you have it) and see if it makes any difference.

Also, the ease with which it turns should firm up at road speeds. They have a speed-sensitive assist so that the road feel improves at speed but is heavily assisted while doing slow-speed parking lot maneuvers.
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In addition to what @Knucklebus has said, these cars learn the way you drive and adapt accordingly. Since you're in Texas, I'm assuming both of your GS' are RWD, in which case they also have Variable Gear Ratio Steering, which means they can adjust the steering speed/response in addition to how heavy or how light it feels. Also, is it possible one of the cars has the rear-wheel steering option and the other doesn't?

I'd bet you're noticing a difference in learned driving styles. If you drive more aggressively and she tends to drive more calmly and conservatively, I'd bet this is what you're noticing. You can always try disconnecting the negative terminal on the battery for about 10 minutes or so. This will reset the adaptations and allow it to start re-learning from a more blank slate/factory fresh condition.
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Thank you so much, I will try the things you said... thank you

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Not bushings. What mode does she have her car set to? If it is ECO or Normal and not Sport, it is probably due to that. It will be easier to turn and less road feel, especially when compared to your F Sport. Try putting it in Sport (or Sport+ if you have it) and see if it makes any difference.

Also, the ease with which it turns should firm up at road speeds. They have a speed-sensitive assist so that the road feel improves at speed but is heavily assisted while doing slow-speed parking lot maneuvers.
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Yes they are both rwd and I will try the re-learn battery disconnect, thank you!

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In addition to what @Knucklebus has said, these cars learn the way you drive and adapt accordingly. Since you're in Texas, I'm assuming both of your GS' are RWD, in which case they also have Variable Gear Ratio Steering, which means they can adjust the steering speed/response in addition to how heavy or how light it feels. Also, is it possible one of the cars has the rear-wheel steering option and the other doesn't?

I'd bet you're noticing a difference in learned driving styles. If you drive more aggressively and she tends to drive more calmly and conservatively, I'd bet this is what you're noticing. You can always try disconnecting the negative terminal on the battery for about 10 minutes or so. This will reset the adaptations and allow it to start re-learning from a more blank slate/factory fresh condition.
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She’s been driving in sport mode and said it feels more stiff, that it’s better, but I’m also going to switch our front wheels and see of my tires on her car make a difference, maybe it’s her tires....maybe radial pull?

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