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Old 12-28-20, 06:55 PM
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Default Auto Park Brake vs Manual

Any opinion on this - I like the auto brake feature - but does it cause ‘wear and tear’ or do most just use the manual parking brake? - Just curious
Old 12-28-20, 08:32 PM
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It's electronic, so whether you leave it on auto or set it manually, it's all the same... unless you're one of those thousands of drivers out there who think shifting their transmission to P is all they need to do when parked... smh...
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Old 12-29-20, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chinee
It's electronic, so whether you leave it on auto or set it manually, it's all the same... unless you're one of those thousands of drivers out there who think shifting their transmission to P is all they need to do when parked... smh...
Thousands? How about Billions! I only use the parking brake on my stick cars. The rest I test periodically but I don't use regularly. Most, as in 99.99% of people with automatics don't have a clue how to engage their parking brake in newer cars that aren't a hand lever or a foot pedal. I doubt my wife knows where or what the button does in the center of her HR-V console.

Having said that, to the OP's question, if you only engage it while stopped, the wear and tear on the brake pad/rotor hat will be very minimal. The electric actuation mechanism will cycle but I don't think you will wear it out before needing other major maintenance.
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The future generation will completely miss out on the joy that is a hand brake turn
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Originally Posted by Knucklebus
Thousands? How about Billions! I only use the parking brake on my stick cars. The rest I test periodically but I don't use regularly. Most, as in 99.99% of people with automatics don't have a clue how to engage their parking brake in newer cars that aren't a hand lever or a foot pedal. I doubt my wife knows where or what the button does in the center of her HR-V console.

Having said that, to the OP's question, if you only engage it while stopped, the wear and tear on the brake pad/rotor hat will be very minimal. The electric actuation mechanism will cycle but I don't think you will wear it out before needing other major maintenance.
Aw man... c'mon... do you really not use the parking brake on your GS?

I taught both my kids why the parking brake exists and that leaving the trans in P without the brake only puts stress on the transmission, especially when you park on a driveway with an incline. I can't say for sure the added stress on the transmission will cause premature failure, but the logic (in my head at least) tells me that when engaged, the parking brake prevents the car from moving, when left off, the weight of the car rests on the transmission components.
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Originally Posted by chinee
Aw man... c'mon... do you really not use the parking brake on your GS?

I taught both my kids why the parking brake exists and that leaving the trans in P without the brake only puts stress on the transmission, especially when you park on a driveway with an incline. I can't say for sure the added stress on the transmission will cause premature failure, but the logic (in my head at least) tells me that when engaged, the parking brake prevents the car from moving, when left off, the weight of the car rests on the transmission components.
I always set the parking brake and curb the wheels towards the curb with an incline on my vehicles also. Many of my neighbors doesn't do either or both at all. So far, I didn't see any run away cars yet though.
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This is why you should use the correct park brake


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Old 12-30-20, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeEss350
This is why you should use the correct park brake
Yikes!
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Originally Posted by DiscoJango
The future generation will completely miss out on the joy that is a hand brake turn
The future generation will miss alot of things... N/A high revving engines.... stick .... V8/V10/V12's... heck, they won't even be driving.
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Originally Posted by GeeEss350
This is why you should use the correct park brake

Ouch! How much is a tranny for our GS? In the $8K range?
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I always have it on auto with no issues so far! I think you'll be okay as well.
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Originally Posted by GeeEss350
This is why you should use the correct park brake

Yes, that CAN happen but I'd bet dollars to donuts that was the result of a park slam, the exact opposite of a neutral drop. You can try to make it happen by locking the brakes (if possible on new cars) and shoving it in park and simultaneously releasing the brakes. Preferably at a speed greater than 20 MPH. It will likely flat-spot the tires if it doesn't snap the parking pall or rip the transmission case.

If this were a REAL problem, there would be more PSAs about it than wearing a seat belt and child safety seats combined. Especially in San Fran where a car could really build up some speed and do some damage.
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everyone have the ka-clunk/klink when the auto parking brake dis-engages? or is it just me
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Originally Posted by RuninRoach
everyone have the ka-clunk/klink when the auto parking brake dis-engages? or is it just me
I don't have it but mine is garage-kept. Others have reported that sound on their 350s and it does occur on the17 Civic and 02 Sequoia in the family, especially when kept outdoors. Normal.
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108k miles on my GS auto park has always been enabled, never an issue. I agree with Knucklebus, I don't think it will ever truly wear out because it's only engaged when the car is not moving. If you use the brake hold feature all the time then you'll probably have to change the auto park brake shoe eventually.


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