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Old 09-15-21, 01:56 PM
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Default Pilot Sport All Season 4 or Pilot Sport 4S

The new Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 are $240 front and $280 rear with a 540 tire wear.
The Pilot Sport 4S, which I now have, are $307 and $355 with a 300 tire wear.
These are Tire Rack prices...

I will never track our '13 GS350 F Sport, 85K. We use the all the time. In Silicon Valley, the weather is, of course, wonderful.
I probably have 30K on the 4S right now... Love these tires. I will need new rubber before too long.

Your thoughts? I will keep this car until it rusts to pieces. And there is no rust around here...
Thanks in advance!
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If you don’t drive it that hard and don’t need the grip, the all seasons are a no brainer. Last longer and less money. I bought the all seasons for my GS 350 F sport and am pretty happy with them. Hope that helps.
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Old 09-16-21, 02:33 PM
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I had the AS4 put on recently. They have enough grip and are comfortable enough for me on the 'meh' roads here in the South Bay. I'm hoping these last at least 40k miles.

Are you considering going for the AS4 just to save money and have them last longer?
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Originally Posted by chyeea03
I had the AS4 put on recently. They have enough grip and are comfortable enough for me on the 'meh' roads here in the South Bay. I'm hoping these last at least 40k miles.

Are you considering going for the AS4 just to save money and have them last longer?
Yes, I guess so. I don't push the GS hard. But I love the feel of the Pilot Sport 4S.
The car is used locally, from Los Gatos to Santa Cruz and to Petaluma. And around town.

I appreciate your opinion. I have actually got excellent wear from these tires, for a sticky summer tire.
Old 09-16-21, 04:53 PM
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From experience. Both those tires wont last 25k on the GS. They will be at 4/32's so fast. Just saying be aware..
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Yes, I guess so. I don't push the GS hard. But I love the feel of the Pilot Sport 4S.
The car is used locally, from Los Gatos to Santa Cruz and to Petaluma. And around town.

I appreciate your opinion. I have actually got excellent wear from these tires, for a sticky summer tire.
What makes you like the feel?
Does it have a softer and quieter ride?
Or is the agility and grip outstanding?
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
What makes you like the feel?
Does it have a softer and quieter ride?
Or is the agility and grip outstanding?
The RWD GS350 F Sport is the European Lexus, if you get my meaning. It is a great driver's car.
The Pilot Sport 4S is the best dry street performance tire you can buy. There is no compromise in the 4S.
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I would stick with the PS4S, pun intended. I also like how they feel over all seasons (although the PS4 a/s is likely the top choice and a very good tire). I dont drive very hard either on them so they last but I like the confidence knowing I have the best grip in the case of an emergency stop or maneuver.

I dont have an F Sport and I like that these tires make up for the "standard" suspension to retain the ability to get the most of the chassis, if needed. I run them at 36psi cold for a nice solid sidewall feel and they have endless grip on a hot summer day.

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If it's for daily driving, the PS4S is not needed. The AS4 will be sufficient enough.

Or get Continental's Extreme Contact Sport as an alternative to the PS4S.
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I had Michelin Pilot AS3+ on my Mustang. That car pulled over 1g lateral on 255/285 with takeoff shocks and springs from a Boss 302 Laguna Seca and those tires. If you're not driving near the edge of the traction circle, don't get summer tires.
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Old 09-18-21, 10:50 AM
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Cross shopping these two now. PS4's are $1418 OTD and AS4's are $1172 OTD. I'm in Miami and I do drive pretty hard, I had the PS4's on my A6 a few years ago and loved them. Price difference doesn't matter, but the difference in tread wear is significant... Decisions decisions
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Originally Posted by itsraysgs
If it's for daily driving, the PS4S is not needed. The AS4 will be sufficient enough.

Or get Continental's Extreme Contact Sport as an alternative to the PS4S.
Continentals are my number one choice due to their smooth/comfortable ride, price point and track ratings driving in wet. Michelins are my second choice if I wanted to splurge a little.
Unfortunately, Continentals are harder to find than Michelins (longer waits for special orders). You can get Michelins at most Discount Tire and Costco Tire service centers, they're almost always stocked.
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk

I will never track our '13 GS350 F Sport, 85K. We use the all the time. In Silicon Valley, the weather is, of course, wonderful.
I probably have 30K on the 4S right now... Love these tires. I will need new rubber before too long.
If you never plan on tracking your car, the Pilot Sport All season 4 will be perfect for you. They will last longer and still be a great all around tire. I have had the Pilot Sport 4S and the Pilot Sport A/S 3+. Both have been great and the All Season 4 is better than the 3+.



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Old 09-20-21, 10:30 AM
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I believe the new Corvette base model comes with the Michelin AS Pilots...
Old 09-23-21, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
I believe the new Corvette base model comes with the Michelin AS Pilots...
Yeah, but the good ones come with Pilot Sport 4S

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