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Car is right now at 250.000miles.
so previous owner confirmed to me that he towed at least 100.000 miles with the car, so what issues i can expect
, gearbox , engine, rear differencial or something else?
There's not much chance he towed anything very heavy with the GS. It simply isn't capable of it without beefing up the suspension. If it could handle a 500lb (220kg) tongue weight without dragging the rear bumper, I'd be greatly surprised.
If you have access to the previous owner, ask them if they had anything done to tow besides the hitch. Ask them if they had issues and if they ever changed the transmission fluid.
Your number 1 concern with towing is the transmission. Your number 2 concern with towing is, again, the transmission. Towing causes higher loads and greater temperature in the transmission. If they did not add an auxiliary transmission fluid cooler, there is where there might be an issue.
If the engine runs well now and doesn't make odd noises or burn excessive oil, my guess is it is fine. Differentials make noise when they are bad, same with axle bearings.
Vehicles designed to tow have beefier transmissions, auxiliary transmission and engine coolers, bigger brakes and stiffer suspensions.
There are alot of people being dicks here because this guy's first language is not English. Not cool. Grow up.
North Americans - Europeans regularly tow significantly more with lesser cars than we do on this side of the pond. They don't all have big SUV's and pickup trucks, and use what they have. They also don't have the huge interstate network so they aren't driving nearly as fast when towing. It's a different world. Here is a good page to read https://www.dieselarmy.com/features/...han-in-the-us/
This is normal in North America vs. Europe (which you would never see in North America)
bladest - 250,000 miles, or KM? (assume KM) 250,000 KM is 155,000 miles. Do you have detailed maintenance records? For severe conditions (winter, 4x4 use (if applicable), towing) Toyota/Lexus has an adjusted maintenance schedule, with much more frequent oil changes in engine, differentials, transmission, coolant, etc. You should double check vs. the maintenance log. Is suspension original or has been replaced?
Great post Gregcanada, its true European people
tow a lot with smaller cars since no Big trucks or suvs there...
right now car is at 250.000 miles, which is around 400.000km, i have for the first 5 years only maintenance records and after that nothing, i doubt that schedule has been followed from previous owner. So i guess damage is done, and now i need to prepare either my pocket or to try to prevent it.
Some of the suspension has been replaced already .
So what i can expect to fail gearbox , differencial ?
Something more and what i can do to prevent it , probably damage has been done already.
Your car will be fine. What's more important is the service history. If the last owner performed all the services in a timely fashion then you have nothing to worry about. The GS450h is a capable tow vehicle!
For the last 5 years i dont have any service history or records... i know only when engine oil was changed last time and thats it... since it was done by independant garage here.
For the last 5 years i dont have any service history or records... i know only when engine oil was changed last time and thats it... since it was done by independant garage here.
As a level set, I would change the fluid in the transmission and differential. See what they look like. If the transmission currently shifts properly and the differential is not making any noise, they are likely fine. Changing fluid will confirm it. Burnt smelling transmission fluid will tell you if it was abused. Some debris in the transmission pan is normal. Lots of metal on the differential plug magnet will tell you how much wear has taken place. Some is normal.
It’s a poor picture but it looks like a pretty small hitch there.
How many miles does your GS have on it now? if 100,000 it’s doubtful they towed the entire time with the car? Perhaps occasionally?
Good eye. That is either a Class 1 or Class 2 hitch. Looks like the 1 1/4inch Class 1. Tow capacity is only 2000lbs max. Used to tow a Bike trailer, or light 2 Man Bass boat or something like that.
Him or someone who has a GS450h should just look at the Lexus om book and see what it says about.........Towing maintenance is all.
In fact isn't the Tq a lot higher on the 450h than the 350?
0h should just look at the Lexus om book and see what it says about.........Towing maintenance is all.
In fact isn't the Tq a lot higher on the 450h than the 350?
There is special maintenance requirements for towing - changing the eCVT fluids and differential fluids because the temperature increases significantly and the oil brakes down.
eCVT oil needs to be changed every 60k km and differential every 45k km. Note these are km not miles as per Lexus schedule for towing.
There are alot of people being dicks here because this guy's first language is not English. Not cool. Grow up.
Check his history on this forum and you might find out why a lot of people are tired.
You can expect everything to be worn out and crumbling. Disassemble the engine to check bearings & oil clearances, x-ray the block for cracks, check backlash and crown & pinion condition on the diff, change all hubs and driveshafts just in case, rebuild the front calipers (cast aluminum) and change the rear ones (cast iron, it rusts so it must be dust already... right). Replace the transmission (not serviceable) and battery just in case as well.
I could go on, since you like to be worried about everything without giving it much thought.
Or...
...you could start researching the real problems, like the heavy oil consumption that you've already mentioned everywhere. If something else starts showing symptoms or outright breaks - it's not a cheap car, deal with the consequences.
02-03-22, 06:16 AM
