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Old 03-17-22, 05:55 AM
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I totaled my 2015 GS350 F-Sport in January so I have been looking for a replacement.
I hope no one has to find a car in these times, very few choices!!!

So I have looked at the LS 500, I saw it has a 3.5l V6 Twin Turbo motor. I never knew. Duh for me.

So would you but the GS F-Sport if-
A- if the 3.5l V6 Twin Turbo was an option?
B- if the F-Sport only had the 3.5l V6 Twin Turbo?
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Sorry to hear about your GS - There is some great perspective here on fellow members that have owned/driven both the GS350 and LS500: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-an-ls500.html

I have never driven a Lexus product with a turbo. However, if the only powerplant in the GS was the Twin Turbo, i'd first want to test drive it (maybe a few times) to get a good impression of its characteristics before pulling the trigger. Do you plan on cross shopping an LS500 with a GS350?
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Originally Posted by Handi
I totaled my 2015 GS350 F-Sport in January so I have been looking for a replacement.
I hope no one has to find a car in these times, very few choices!!!

So I have looked at the LS 500, I saw it has a 3.5l V6 Twin Turbo motor. I never knew. Duh for me.

So would you but the GS F-Sport if-
A- if the 3.5l V6 Twin Turbo was an option?
B- if the F-Sport only had the 3.5l V6 Twin Turbo?

That V6 TT LS is likely my next Lexus car if........ they don't cost like 40% more than Value.
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I would love to get another GS350 F-Sport if they were in production.
I like the new technology these 20/21 and 22 models have so going to a 17 or 18 model yr car doesn’t float my boat.
Im looking at the Lexus LS 500, Mercedes S Class and the Genesis G90 and G80.
I’m leaning towards the G90 with the 5.0 V8
The technology in that car is awesome. The G80 has some things I like but it feels smaller than the GS.

I’ll reply when I get a car, hopefully this weekend. 3/18
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I would not. The 2GR and the Aisin 6-Speed are known quantities and I plan on keeping this car for several hundred thousand miles. I have very little info about the long term reliability of the TTV6 and the 10spd transmission. LS500s are just now barely coming off lease, and I don't know of any that have 6 digits on the odometer yet.

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Of course I would buy the GS if it had the 8GR-FXS, is this is a trick question? That engine makes 100 more HP than the 2GR-FSE while getting the same fuel economy.

I put full faith in Toyota and their engineers, when and why did we start questioning Toyota when it comes to reliability?

Turbo's have been around a long time, enough time for issues to be ironed out, it's not a new invention.
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They should have put the TTV6 on the new GS but instead they chose FWD and ES250 AWD. Biggest joke of the century.

I would happily upgrade to a newer GS, even if they did like the IS, only a refresh on the skin but put that TTV6 in it. No need for a full redesign, this chassis is already good. But this car with that engine would probably smoke all the F cars and they won't like that.
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The Lexus GS version of the all new Mazda 6 with 48 V mild hybrid 3.0 in-line six and RWD/AWD should be out soon.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/03/rw...nveiled-cx-60/

2022 Mazda CX-60 Debuts As Brand's Most Powerful Production Car, Gets Straight-Six Engines And PHEV | Carscoops



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Originally Posted by peteharvey
The Lexus GS version of the all new Mazda 6 with 48 V mild hybrid 3.0 in-line six and RWD/AWD should be out soon.
Genesis G80 > Whatever Mazda is coming out with
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Originally Posted by greys0uled
Genesis G80 > Whatever Mazda is coming out with
For space, comfort and quietness - for a car 1/2 a size bigger than its class - go Genesis G80.

For style, performance, efficiency and dynamics - go Mazda 6/Lexus 5GS.
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
For space, comfort and quietness - for a car 1/2 a size bigger than its class - go Genesis G80.

For style, performance, efficiency and dynamics - go Mazda 6/Lexus 5GS.
I'd give "Style" to the G80, but overall I like this. Heard the G80 was a heavy car, but I still think it handles well. I drove one.
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Originally Posted by greys0uled
I'd give "Style" to the G80, but overall I like this. Heard the G80 was a heavy car, but I still think it handles well. I drove one.
Horses for courses and each to their own.

Genesis lacks engineering finesse - so they make up with brute size and weight.
Hence, space, comfort and quietness goes to Genesis.
However, that brute size and weight compromizes the performance, efficiency and dynamics - while styling is very subjective.
Thing is, if we genuinely want a bigger heavier car, we will move to the full size class.
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Pretty soon Toyota and Lexus would just be a rebranded brand. They don't make anything in house anymore, just slap their badges on other manufacturers' products. Not good boys, not good.
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO
Pretty soon Toyota and Lexus would just be a rebranded brand. They don't make anything in house anymore, just slap their badges on other manufacturers' products. Not good boys, not good.
IS will be EV by 2025.
Down the track, the Mazda-based 5GS stop-gap will be replaced by a full blown EV...
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Yeah but even the EV, they're still using tech from Subaru right? Or in this case will be Mazda's tech?


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