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Old 08-02-22, 02:25 PM
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Maybe a stupid question: Is there a notable difference in ride quality with 19 inch wheels vs. the 18 inch wheels? I see some of the non-F-Sport models have 18 standard, but seeing a few with the 19 option.
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Not a stupid question at all, but I can't answer it. All of my GSs had the 19" wheels. The 18" wheels will give you an extra half inch of sidewall, so it may help some. I've always been very happy with the 19s on my cars.
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Originally Posted by GS47
Maybe a stupid question: Is there a notable difference in ride quality with 19 inch wheels vs. the 18 inch wheels? I see some of the non-F-Sport models have 18 standard, but seeing a few with the 19 option.
Yes.

There will be a difference in ride quality in two GS’s with 18s and 19s. And likely an even more noticeable difference between a GS with 18s and an F Sport with 19s.
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Old 08-02-22, 02:34 PM
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FSport comes with 18" wheels? Do they even clear the brake calipers? I think tires can make a difference in ride quality too.
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO
FSport comes with 18" wheels? Do they even clear the brake calipers? I think tires can make a difference in ride quality too.
All F Sports come on 19s
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Old 08-02-22, 02:58 PM
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Still don’t know how non-AVS GS’s drive compared to ones with AVS but I’m sure this has been covered
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Originally Posted by greys0uled
Still don’t know how non-AVS GS’s drive compared to ones with AVS but I’m sure this has been covered
From my experience driving both, the F-Sport suspension truly fits its "always-on" description. Its a ride that makes me feel like the car is sure footed, searching for the right combo to help you feel confident to pull hard into the next corner.

As planted as my non-AVS suspension feels, its always the same - it never feels like it gets sharper. The F-sport feels so into the road, almost too dialed in for my tastes. My non AVS is always the same: not as dialed in, but dialed in just right for me.

My impression was the AVS made the GS feel un-Lexus like in non-aggressive driving scenarios. Combined with the 19" wheels, the AVS made me "think" like the car was uncomfortable, sacrificing comfort for sportiness gains that driving around in NYC I would never get to enjoy.

I think Lexus was really trying hard to satisfy the enthusiast crowd but keep true to its bread and butter comfort at the same time with the 4GS. I certainly appreciate the F-sport for what it is as the tech behind the adaptable suspension is amazing - it just wasn't the right GS for me

I hope we haven't strayed away from the OP's question about upgrading his premium, non AVS 2015 - but if he's considering both a refreshed F-Sport vs refreshed Premium, i think it still requires a very personal test drive no matter how much us internet forum guys post up!

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@AJLex19 This is all very helpful! Working out something presently for a 2020, Premium, not an F-sport, but does have the 19 inch wheel option. I'll probably put Pirelli P7's on there, just wasn't sure how much the 19 vs 18 inch wheels would affect the ride.
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Personally, I don't think the upgrade is worth the cash. The vehicle you have is a nice ride. Keep that one and invest the $20k+ price difference.
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Old 08-04-22, 08:48 AM
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I always tell everyone to just test drive them all and really spend time with each one to see the good and bad, then see which one u like best. A car that fits another person might not fit u. Forget the spec sheet and internet test drives, they won't do much good.

The best car to buy is the one that really speaks to u and ur wallet when ur behind the wheel.
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Originally Posted by GS47
  • 2015 trade-in valued at $28,000. It has a clean Carfax, no accidents 40,200 miles. Was purchased L/Certified, all previous maintenance was through the dealership.
  • 2020 is priced at $49,000. It has a clean Carfax, no accidents, 16,000 miles, L/Certified, one owner, all previous maintenance was through the dealership.
The 2020 is definitely pricey, plus I'd have to factor in shipping.

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Originally Posted by GS47
2015 is not Premium, just the base package. Previous owners installed after-market heated seats—they're just fine!
Many years ago, I found that the base Premium with non-AVS has a very damped and tied-down drive - which scientifically means high frequency vertical oscillations for a tiring ride.
The Luxury with AVS has less control for more float - meaning lower frequency of vertical oscillations which is a floatier and more comfortable ride.
However, my opinions are based on the RWD models only.

Entirely a personal decision.
The 2020 is better with a fresher look, slightly smoother and quieter idle, slightly smoother quieter engine, better ride albeit at the cost of handling, and more features - at $21k.
Like ItzFilyO says, drive the two and whatever you fancy.
It's only 21k - you can't take it with you to your grave, and some would argue that spending 21k motivates you to work harder to get that 21k back.
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Old 08-06-22, 09:50 AM
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Thanks for the follow-up, Pete! This is helpful.

Okay, I'm doing it. I put a deposit on the 2020, working on final numbers now. It's happening.
Old 08-06-22, 10:14 AM
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Best discribes the diffrence.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-test-review/

There should have been another GS460 in the 4th Gen.
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Old 08-08-22, 10:43 AM
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Only the 2016+ GS450h suffers no drawbacks or performance penalty compared to the 2013.
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@GS47 Any update?


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