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Old 11-01-22, 05:20 PM
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My 2020 Lexus GS F Sport RWD is around 10,600 miles and I went in for an oil change.
The report came back that the front were at 5mm already. At this pace, I will be needing brake pads and resurface the rotors at 15K or so. A little surprised by the usage and I don't try hard on the brakes also.

Is that normal?

Oh yeah, it's $550 at least for each brake job with pads and resurfacing the rotors. $1300 for new rotors and brakes.
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Resurface rotors = Buy new rotors. So don't do it.

Get front pads from a Lexus dealer on eBay for under $100 and DIY it.

I used to live in LA and I was really heavy on my brakes. I changed my front pads (only) at around 21K miles and I think my rotors are still good until 40-50K mile. Now that I'm no longer in LA, I think my brakes will last a really long time.

Stock Textar pads and new shims: https://www.ebay.com/itm/33328076091...AAAOSw671dPwLU

Low noise Advics pads without shims: https://www.ebay.com/itm/25459893997...Bk9SR8jc9dyGYQ

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All Toyota pads just wear too fast for me. I use to run only Toyota pads. No more. As the pervious post says don't turn the rotors. No need to with only 10k. Just get the stock pads or Akebono's and put them on. Be sure to tell them Don't resurface the Rotors. Sometimes they will do it anyway.
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO
Resurface rotors = Buy new rotors. So don't do it.

Get front pads from a Lexus dealer on eBay for under $100 and DIY it.

I used to live in LA and I was really heavy on my brakes. I changed my front pads (only) at around 21K miles and I think my rotors are still good until 40-50K mile. Now that I'm no longer in LA, I think my brakes will last a really long time.

Stock Textar pads and new shims: https://www.ebay.com/itm/33328076091...AAAOSw671dPwLU

Low noise Advics pads without shims: https://www.ebay.com/itm/254598939977?epid=1452055446&hash=item3b47478549:gccAAOSwcpJewGjE&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoEcUpXc7K7ib15MAL8nwkqEgEwuQUbDeXtwNq01CO10ufllW84gByn7%2FUaDrf4ZrsDRaeX5JUsUPQ4izkU%2F80Y9BEbia39%2B7hTHXLbS%2FGAqI6cO0AICEmh3GDGYvmwmDCGjbMohGCut5Or1Bx5LYd3Mh9QrJqaJ8MPVVT7LZ3wdpzgA2OVDEkU7flTaSvZFHFJsJB%2F2SkI%2BjOxJ3%2BGAes9Y%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8jc9dyGYQ
I live in NorCal and this is crazy to need new brakes around 15-20K.


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All Toyota pads just wear too fast for me. I use to run only Toyota pads. No more. As the pervious post says don't turn the rotors. No need to with only 10k. Just get the stock pads or Akebono's and put them on. Be sure to tell them Don't resurface the Rotors. Sometimes they will do it anyway.
Too fast and waste of $$$. If you don't resurface brake pad wear will be abnormal?

Car is great but Lexus dropped the ball on the brakes/rotor.
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Mine still runs and brakes like new at 28K+ miles with 8K miles on the new pads now and no resurface.

I lived in heavy traffic area so 20K isn't that bad for how well it stops the car. Less than $100 isn't bad for a Lexus GS. Come on!!
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Originally Posted by websurfer
I live in NorCal and this is crazy to need new brakes around 15-20K.
Too fast and waste of $$$. If you don't resurface brake pad wear will be abnormal?
Car is great but Lexus dropped the ball on the brakes/rotor.
I have never resurfaced the rotor, don't do it, if there is an abnormally large lip on the edge or rotor thickness is out of spec, change it. I'm at 125k miles, the front rotor was changed once around 100k miles, rear rotors have never been changed and are still within spec. Pads were changed like 3-4 times in 125k miles in the front and twice in the rear. I have the 450h so the hybrid system does some of the braking, also most of my driving is highway. I also don't tailgate or drive aggressively.

The key to not changing the rotor and not having any issues is to use the same pads every time you change it, in my case that's oem pads. If you switch pads, some made differ sightly in shape/material and cut the rotor differently compared to original pads.

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Interesting, I wish I knew how to do brakes. Just didn't want to risk it. I saw lots of videos but not confident on doing it myself.

I would do mostly simple things like filters and oil in some vehicles.

I also do some commute driving lately so some stop and go quite often nowadays.

How much mm is when the front and rear pads are new?

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Originally Posted by websurfer
Interesting, I wish I knew how to do brakes. Just didn't want to risk it. I saw lots of videos but not confident on doing it myself.

I would do mostly simple things like filters and oil in some vehicles.

I also do some commute driving lately so some stop and go quite often nowadays.

How much mm is when the front and rear pads are new?
It is one of the easier jobs out there to do.
Just pay a friend to help you and guide you if you’re that nervous about it.

I just replaced my front brakes which was probably original at 145k km.
Ashika rotors ans Brembo pads.
Front brakes were total of $230 in parts and an evenings work.
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I think if u can fill up a gas, u can change the front pads in the GS. It's that easy!
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO
I think if u can fill up a gas, u can change the front pads in the GS. It's that easy!
Post your DIY video
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Originally Posted by peasodos
Post your DIY video
I had it last time but I took it down. Just not really into youtube anymore since they stopped monetizing old stuff. Ain't got time to be posting new stuff all the time.
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Originally Posted by websurfer
My 2020 Lexus GS F Sport RWD is around 10,600 miles and I went in for an oil change.
The report came back that the front were at 5mm already. At this pace, I will be needing brake pads and resurface the rotors at 15K or so. A little surprised by the usage and I don't try hard on the brakes also.

Is that normal?

Oh yeah, it's $550 at least for each brake job with pads and resurfacing the rotors. $1300 for new rotors and brakes.
Thats quite a lot of wear. My OEM brake pads lasted me about 55K. I think I could have gotten another 3k miles out of them, but I decided not to. Do you drive with a foot on your brake pedal by any chance? $550 is quite a rip off for a simple brake change. I did my brake change myself and it took me a total of an hour, because I took my time cleaning and lubing the brake parts before installing the new pads, otherwise, it would have taken me half an hour to do both sides. Quite honestly, I think it took me longer to do the prep job than the brake job itself.

Take it to an indy mechanic and see how much they will charge you. Some mechanics in my area charge 100 - 125 bucks labor.

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Careful, indy mechanics could say that u need new calipers too or just get a new car bro!
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If someone has the time, hope they make a GS video on the brakes. Start from step 1 to the end. Bleeding the brakes with air is what I don't really got down watching it.

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Originally Posted by websurfer
If someone has the time, hope they make a GS video on the brakes. Start from step 1 to the end. Bleeding the brakes with air is what I don't really got down watching it.
If your changing pads or pads/rotors you are not removing any brake fluid or introducing any air into the system, so your not bleeding anything. You do have to use a tool to push the pistons back to make room for the new pads.


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