Is Lexus killing (discontinuing) the GS Line ? (Merged threads)
09-12-18, 08:43 AM
#286
Lexus Test Driver
09-12-18, 10:38 AM
#287
Lexus Fanatic
I was at the BMW dealership a while back waiting to pick up my car. A guy in a Tesla pulls in looking around for something. When asked, he said he needed a charging station. He then proceeded to complain about how often he has been stuck and cant live with his constant hunt for power and starts negotiations on a 7 series!
I didn’t stick around to find out what happened, but it was mid summer here in Phoenix. What blew me away more was that he bought a 100k plus car, hated it and then bought another 100k plus car to end the pain. I guess if you have it, why not experiment with an experimental car, but yikes!
Now he can enjoy his 7 series breaking down and leaving him stranded on the side of the road instead of running out of charge leaving him stuck.Maybe that is a exaggeration but the 7 series is not known to be the most reliable vehicle so he is basically paying a lot of money to get into a possibly pretty unreliable vehicle after paying a lot of money for a compromised vehicle that has range issues. Sounds like this is a spur of the moment shopper and does not research what he buys.
09-12-18, 11:05 AM
#288
Now he can enjoy his 7 series breaking down and leaving him stranded on the side of the road instead of running out of charge leaving him stuck.Maybe that is a exaggeration but the 7 series is not known to be the most reliable vehicle so he is basically paying a lot of money to get into a possibly pretty unreliable vehicle after paying a lot of money for a compromised vehicle that has range issues. Sounds like this is a spur of the moment shopper and does not research what he buys.
yes definitely exaggeration, BMW aren’t too bad any more in the break down and strand you department. Most of the issues BMW’s face today are after the warranty expires and after 100k miles. I’ve owned a couple of BMW’s and they were good cars. I got rid of them because of the fear of oil leaks at 90k miles. My best friend is a sales manager at a high volume BMW store. We talk all the time, you’ll be suprised how quick people change their minds on cars and want something else 2 months later. Today he’s taking a 2017 S63 AMG with a $180k original sticker in and only 7k miles on it in exchange for a highly optioned X5 M I have another friend who never keeps a car more than 9 months. He’s trading his practically new Tesla model S in for a model 3 AWD performance just because it’s the new hot thing.
Last edited by highrev6; 09-12-18 at 11:52 AM.
09-12-18, 11:10 AM
#289
Lexus Test Driver
yes definitely exaggeration, BMW aren’t too bad any more in the break down and strand you department. Most of the issues BMW’s face today are after the warranty expires and after 100k miles. I’ve owned a couple of BMW’s and they where good cars. I got rid of them because of the fear of oil leaks at 90k miles. My best friend is a sales manager at a high volume BMW store. We talk all the time, you’ll be suprised how quick people change their minds on cars and want something else 2 months later. Today he’s taking a 2017 S63 AMG with a $180k original sticker in and only 7k miles on it in exchange for a highly optioned X5 M I have another friend who never keeps a car more than 9 months. He’s trading his practically new Tesla model S in for a model 3 AWD performance just because it’s the new hot thing.
09-12-18, 11:50 AM
#290
Lexus Test Driver
yes definitely exaggeration, BMW aren’t too bad any more in the break down and strand you department. Most of the issues BMW’s face today are after the warranty expires and after 100k miles. I’ve owned a couple of BMW’s and they where good cars. I got rid of them because of the fear of oil leaks at 90k miles. My best friend is a sales manager at a high volume BMW store. We talk all the time, you’ll be suprised how quick people change their minds on cars and want something else 2 months later. Today he’s taking a 2017 S63 AMG with a $180k original sticker in and only 7k miles on it in exchange for a highly optioned X5 M I have another friend who never keeps a car more than 9 months. He’s trading his practically new Tesla model S in for a model 3 AWD performance just because it’s the new hot thing.
09-12-18, 12:09 PM
#291
Racer
Now he can enjoy his 7 series breaking down and leaving him stranded on the side of the road instead of running out of charge leaving him stuck.Maybe that is a exaggeration but the 7 series is not known to be the most reliable vehicle so he is basically paying a lot of money to get into a possibly pretty unreliable vehicle after paying a lot of money for a compromised vehicle that has range issues. Sounds like this is a spur of the moment shopper and does not research what he buys.
09-12-18, 12:19 PM
#292
Racer
You have another set of people that really cannot afford to buy or lease the car they drive. And yet another set of people that could afford to buy a new $100k vehicle for cash once a month and give away the previous month's car, but elects to buy used vehicles to let someone else take the heaviest depreciation hit and is likely to keep his vehicles for 5-6 years.
I just don't want to buy new: I'm value-obsessed, and when I weigh the premium against the benefits, new cars just never make sense to me, especially for a Lexus and other reliable brands.
I say 'value-obsessed'. My wife says I'm cheap.
09-12-18, 02:23 PM
#293
Pole Position
yes definitely exaggeration, BMW aren’t too bad any more in the break down and strand you department. Most of the issues BMW’s face today are after the warranty expires and after 100k miles. I’ve owned a couple of BMW’s and they were good cars. I got rid of them because of the fear of oil leaks at 90k miles. My best friend is a sales manager at a high volume BMW store. We talk all the time, you’ll be suprised how quick people change their minds on cars and want something else 2 months later. Today he’s taking a 2017 S63 AMG with a $180k original sticker in and only 7k miles on it in exchange for a highly optioned X5 M I have another friend who never keeps a car more than 9 months. He’s trading his practically new Tesla model S in for a model 3 AWD performance just because it’s the new hot thing.
09-18-18, 03:03 AM
#295
Always take anything you’ve heard at the dealer with a serious grain of salt, as I am in the auto industry and a Topyta corporate affiliate of 8 years and even I know what’s coming down the pipe line well before a dealer employee does, If the owner didn’t tell you himself than it’s most definitely a made up story and rumor. In my experience owners are usually pretty tight lipped about embargoed info on future developing products.
Last edited by highrev6; 09-18-18 at 04:12 AM.
09-18-18, 09:05 AM
#296
Lexus Fanatic
That is true, I would take the 7 series over a Tesla, wish they were reliable but I have heard about too many horror stories with 7 series BMW's to seriously consider one. Not sure if the current gen 7 series is a huge step up in reliability over the last gen which were known to be money pits in some cases.
09-19-18, 08:05 AM
#297
That may be true, but the original factory battery in my GS350 was just replaced after six plus years. It gets warm here in Tucson. The warmest day this year the temp hit 115 degrees.
09-19-18, 03:58 PM
#298
That is rare. Never had a battery go that long, unless in the trunk away from the heat (BMW).
09-19-18, 05:00 PM
#299
The battery in the GSh is only used to power the primary motor generator (MG1) that in turn performs the functions of a starter and simultaneously recharges the high voltage EV battery.I'm still running the original battery from 2013 in the TX heat.
~ Im2bz2p345
Last edited by Im2bz2p345; 09-19-18 at 05:09 PM.
09-24-18, 08:34 PM
#300
Lead Lap
They weren't sure when the 2019 GS would be available but they had a fully optioned 2019 ES350 for around $54k (pano roof, ultra lux pkg, levinson, triple LEDs) on the floor. Its crazy to me that an ES can be optioned up to close to $55-$60k - roughly the same price as a well equipped GS.
Last edited by AJLex19; 09-24-18 at 08:58 PM.