Lexus debuts 2016 GS F
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In reality, all the excess horsepower of the M5,E63 and RS7 is just consolation prize for the fact that these cars are no longer fun to drive except at life threatening/law breaking speeds. Reason : weight, turbo lag,Nose heaviness list goes on.
GS-F is far more purist in its approach : RWD,V8,predictable, progressive engine/throttle response,relative light weight.
The GS-F might be a return to the roots of a true driving enthusiast's car : fun to drive anytime, any speed.
GS-F is far more purist in its approach : RWD,V8,predictable, progressive engine/throttle response,relative light weight.
The GS-F might be a return to the roots of a true driving enthusiast's car : fun to drive anytime, any speed.
There is, and has always been, something special about old school cars in the same way as older people always speaks about how good it was "back in those days". Our kids will probably do the same. I recall the reaction to putting a V8 in a M car back in the 90ties very well, many BMW fans described it like the end of days. Im pretty sure that a car like M5 E39 is the perfect and best M5 until you drive it.
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As a GS owner, I must say that I am very UNIMPRESSED with the GS-F.
The price will be very high, styling is not good, and its heavy.
Germans will build far better with the new upcoming M5 and AMG model will be better and classier as well.
I must say that the CTS-V (2016 version) looks AWESOME. Particularly from the front. Price looks to be the same with whats is expected from Lexus. Lexus interior seems better but not by a lot.
The CTS-V is really really gorgeous, classy yet mean looking. Perfect balance. Oh, the stock wheels on the CTS-V also look great while the Lexus wheels look like garbage / hideous.
Just one man's opinion though.
The price will be very high, styling is not good, and its heavy.
Germans will build far better with the new upcoming M5 and AMG model will be better and classier as well.
I must say that the CTS-V (2016 version) looks AWESOME. Particularly from the front. Price looks to be the same with whats is expected from Lexus. Lexus interior seems better but not by a lot.
The CTS-V is really really gorgeous, classy yet mean looking. Perfect balance. Oh, the stock wheels on the CTS-V also look great while the Lexus wheels look like garbage / hideous.
Just one man's opinion though.
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As a GS owner, I must say that I am very UNIMPRESSED with the GS-F.
The price will be very high, styling is not good, and its heavy.
Germans will build far better with the new upcoming M5 and AMG model will be better and classier as well.
I must say that the CTS-V (2016 version) looks AWESOME. Particularly from the front. Price looks to be the same with whats is expected from Lexus. Lexus interior seems better but not by a lot.
The CTS-V is really really gorgeous, classy yet mean looking. Perfect balance. Oh, the stock wheels on the CTS-V also look great while the Lexus wheels look like garbage / hideous.
Just one man's opinion though.
The price will be very high, styling is not good, and its heavy.
Germans will build far better with the new upcoming M5 and AMG model will be better and classier as well.
I must say that the CTS-V (2016 version) looks AWESOME. Particularly from the front. Price looks to be the same with whats is expected from Lexus. Lexus interior seems better but not by a lot.
The CTS-V is really really gorgeous, classy yet mean looking. Perfect balance. Oh, the stock wheels on the CTS-V also look great while the Lexus wheels look like garbage / hideous.
Just one man's opinion though.
The GS-F is lightweight compared to the current M5/E63/RS7
You do know that the new M5/E63 is at least 2 years away right? Current Germans supersedans are overweight pigs compared to the GS-F.
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Lexus is still pushing its 5.0L v8
While Merecedes has gone through 3 engines. the beloved 6.2 amg, the 5.5tt is being phased out and now the 4.0tt is being phased in.
While Merecedes has gone through 3 engines. the beloved 6.2 amg, the 5.5tt is being phased out and now the 4.0tt is being phased in.
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This seems very likely since the top trim current GS is around north of $60,000 USD.
At least 2 years for next M5 /E63 is over exaggerating a bit.
Also remember, GS-F is not for sale yet either. It will be some months before it is released. So the time difference between GS-F and new M5 is not that long.
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I am sure the RS7 owner, when they are stuck to their seat like fly paper when going mid or low 3's 0 to 60 on the way to the office makes them think oh man this car is so boring and uninspiring
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The GS-F, I am still considering it, but myself, like many others won't be going to the track, it just needs to be fun to drive, and every car you listed..... they certainly are not boring.
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I see these over weight pigs every morning, driven by suits to and from the office, with giant smiles on their face. They will be lined up in front of the steakhouse tonight after work, they won't be at the track.....
I am sure the RS7 owner, when they are stuck to their seat like fly paper when going mid or low 3's 0 to 60 on the way to the office makes them think oh man this car is so boring and uninspiring
The GS-F, I am still considering it, but myself, like many others won't be going to the track, it just needs to be fun to drive, and every car you listed..... they certainly are not boring.
I am sure the RS7 owner, when they are stuck to their seat like fly paper when going mid or low 3's 0 to 60 on the way to the office makes them think oh man this car is so boring and uninspiring
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The GS-F, I am still considering it, but myself, like many others won't be going to the track, it just needs to be fun to drive, and every car you listed..... they certainly are not boring.
Or you can buy a C63 like me and 503hp and 3600lbs
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The car is exactly what Im looking for in terms of performance.
And I bet Lexus knows their core customer base doesn't look for extreme power. True performance enthusiast isnt looking for a 4 door or a lexus even. They already have a German or Italian 2 seater and if they are also in the market for the GS F they are bcause they are just looking for a 4 door daily driver with some punch.
My $0.02
And I bet Lexus knows their core customer base doesn't look for extreme power. True performance enthusiast isnt looking for a 4 door or a lexus even. They already have a German or Italian 2 seater and if they are also in the market for the GS F they are bcause they are just looking for a 4 door daily driver with some punch.
My $0.02
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The car is exactly what Im looking for in terms of performance.
And I bet Lexus knows their core customer base doesn't look for extreme power. True performance enthusiast isnt looking for a 4 door or a lexus even. They already have a German or Italian 2 seater and if they are also in the market for the GS F they are bcause they are just looking for a 4 door daily driver with some punch.
My $0.02
And I bet Lexus knows their core customer base doesn't look for extreme power. True performance enthusiast isnt looking for a 4 door or a lexus even. They already have a German or Italian 2 seater and if they are also in the market for the GS F they are bcause they are just looking for a 4 door daily driver with some punch.
My $0.02
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The car is exactly what Im looking for in terms of performance.
And I bet Lexus knows their core customer base doesn't look for extreme power. True performance enthusiast isnt looking for a 4 door or a lexus even. They already have a German or Italian 2 seater and if they are also in the market for the GS F they are bcause they are just looking for a 4 door daily driver with some punch.
My $0.02
And I bet Lexus knows their core customer base doesn't look for extreme power. True performance enthusiast isnt looking for a 4 door or a lexus even. They already have a German or Italian 2 seater and if they are also in the market for the GS F they are bcause they are just looking for a 4 door daily driver with some punch.
My $0.02