Lexus debuts 2016 GS F
#61
I feel like the GS F is the sedan version of the RC F but more upscale. The front looks like they took the RC F's front section and quad pipes and added in two extra doors. Kind of like how the the RC F was suppose to have a sedan version like the IS F? Also the GS F share the same engine with the same output numbers and near identical weight as well to the RC F. I don't know just my opinion :P
#62
The GS-F's listed curb weight of 4,034 lbs will be very similar to the curb weight of a RC-F equipped with the optional TVD (which is slightly north of 4,000 lbs). A recent Motor Trend review had the RC-F weighing in at 4,040 lbs.
#63
i never expected gsf to be lighter than the rcf, but i remember reading plenty of people saying the lighter gs350 would translate to lighter gsf than rcf
#65
#66
I don't understand how you guys expected anything more. Even with 600 PS and Turbo and par with rivals, it would not sell any more or steel M5/E AMG/RS6/CTS-V market. But it would costs Lexus more to build and increase business risk. Wait for next generation GS to get something equivalent to current German super-executive sedans.
#67
I don't understand how you guys expected anything more. Even with 600 PS and Turbo and par with rivals, it would not sell any more or steel M5/E AMG/RS6/CTS-V market. But it would costs Lexus more to build and increase business risk. Wait for next generation GS to get something equivalent to current German super-executive sedans.
They could have done an IS-F with the engine and people would be happy.
I think it'll sell, it just isn't on par with the competitor's branding, and so manifests the already-existing stereotype of Lexus "underperforming" their peers.
#68
I don't understand how you guys expected anything more. Even with 600 PS and Turbo and par with rivals, it would not sell any more or steel M5/E AMG/RS6/CTS-V market. But it would costs Lexus more to build and increase business risk. Wait for next generation GS to get something equivalent to current German super-executive sedans.
#69
#71
We have a couple invites, but I am sending different people. Tue, then Wed or Thur, and maybe Sat as we have some marketing stuff going on there as well. If I am down Tuesday I will hit you up.
#73
yeah, it's gonna be labeled FU
wouldn't be surprised if per year. this will not be a huge seller, and wouldn't have sold any more with bigger hp.
I can understand some of the frustration in the posts as it isn't 500 hp +, but given what a fabulous car the GS 350 F sport is with only 306 hp, I have to believe the GS F with 467 hp is going to be nothing short of outstanding. If horsepower alone was the major condiderationl I never would have bought a GS in the first place!
Wait for next generation GS to get something equivalent to current German super-executive sedans.
really? so should the rc-f be the rc500 f-sport too?
#74
Car looks ok, but hp is embarrassing compared to competition.
Lexus, lets get some new high hp turbo motors ASAP! With BMW coming with B series motors and Mercedes doing the same Lexus is falling way behind. Its not like you guys can't build reliable turbo cars. Remember the 2JZ?
Lexus, lets get some new high hp turbo motors ASAP! With BMW coming with B series motors and Mercedes doing the same Lexus is falling way behind. Its not like you guys can't build reliable turbo cars. Remember the 2JZ?
#75
It's way better to shine against these cars as a GS500 F-Sport than to wear the GS F badge and be badly outgunned by the E63, M5 and the 640hp CTS-V.
This GS may possibly be more fun to drive to some, but in this class of cars it's way more than that, heck some may think even a miata is more fun than them all ...
Last edited by Gojirra99; 01-06-15 at 03:23 PM.