jonez

So it's an option you can order if you are not ordering through the website then. When you try to build a GS on the Lexus site, they only offer triple beams on F Sport. That option doesn't show for non-F Sport models.

baconRx

its a lux package item too but they took that away for 2018. its weird they don't allow cold weather pack with fsport on rwd either but its an option with awd and lux packages

drgrant

The problem is it likely will act like every other ES they made in previous generations, so what's the point of being "Edgy" if it doesn't follow up on actually being capable.

It's not that the ES is a bad car either, and I think even the 17s look pretty nice. If you're simply interested in a loaf around commuting car to go from A to B... I'd love to have it as a 2nd car. But it ain't a GS. Nor will the 2018 be, either, despite its looks. It's FWD, it can't even pretend to drive like a GS.

Now that they kinda stole some of the GS styling for the new ES, I feel like Lexus kinda sold GS owners down the river, unless the intent is some entirely new styling down the road.

-Mike

lobuxracer

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Lexus has mishandled the whole F thing IMHO. F Sport is a hollow cake. Looks nice, but where's the rest of it? The ES further confusing the styling and performance delineations just makes them live up to the bland moniker they've managed to hold for years despite the F cars and their significant improvements in competing with real performance vehicles. Those of us who bought an IS F years ago have been complaining about this for a long time. The more time passes, the harder it is to visually quickly identify the halo models. Pretty sad IMHO.

Avalon786