Anyone have vibration problems with '04 with KDSS?
#16
Re: KDSS ??
Originally posted by bobemac
Wow, Tetra I can hardly believe your dramatic descriptions of how the GX sways in the wind.
I've been driving my un KDSS GX for over a year, and I'm in Austin right now, I live in Texas. I've never
experienced what you are talking about. However, I owned an MDX for two years, and a 4Runner for three.
They had more sway. I chose a 2004 without KDSS, and I love the way it handles on a windy day on IH35
between Austin and SA.
Wow, Tetra I can hardly believe your dramatic descriptions of how the GX sways in the wind.
I've been driving my un KDSS GX for over a year, and I'm in Austin right now, I live in Texas. I've never
experienced what you are talking about. However, I owned an MDX for two years, and a 4Runner for three.
They had more sway. I chose a 2004 without KDSS, and I love the way it handles on a windy day on IH35
between Austin and SA.
I have noticed I have to do put a lot of counter force to stay headed straight on windy days. It's annoying constantly correcting the steering input.
#17
Originally posted by EDGE2
tetra
the 4x4 shift **** is to shift the transfer case from 4hi/AWD to 4lo, the button on the dash locks the center diff turning the awd with vsc to a true 50/50 front to rear 4x4 system, now with the diff locked it can't send power to wheels with traction cause VSC is disabled.
tetra
the 4x4 shift **** is to shift the transfer case from 4hi/AWD to 4lo, the button on the dash locks the center diff turning the awd with vsc to a true 50/50 front to rear 4x4 system, now with the diff locked it can't send power to wheels with traction cause VSC is disabled.
#18
Originally posted by tigmd99
Not exactly true. With the center diff lock, 50% of power goes to the front, and 50% goes to the rear. HOWEVER, 4-wheel traction control is STILL active...power can still go to the wheel with the most traction. With the center diff lock, power can still be shifted left & right on the front axle...left & right on the rear axle.
Not exactly true. With the center diff lock, 50% of power goes to the front, and 50% goes to the rear. HOWEVER, 4-wheel traction control is STILL active...power can still go to the wheel with the most traction. With the center diff lock, power can still be shifted left & right on the front axle...left & right on the rear axle.
#20
Re: KDSS ??
Originally posted by bobemac
Wow, Tetra I can hardly believe your dramatic descriptions of how the GX sways in the wind.
I've been driving my un KDSS GX for over a year, and I'm in Austin right now, I live in Texas. I've never
experienced what you are talking about. However, I owned an MDX for two years, and a 4Runner for three.
They had more sway. I chose a 2004 without KDSS, and I love the way it handles on a windy day on IH35
between Austin and SA.
Wow, Tetra I can hardly believe your dramatic descriptions of how the GX sways in the wind.
I've been driving my un KDSS GX for over a year, and I'm in Austin right now, I live in Texas. I've never
experienced what you are talking about. However, I owned an MDX for two years, and a 4Runner for three.
They had more sway. I chose a 2004 without KDSS, and I love the way it handles on a windy day on IH35
between Austin and SA.
Bob
You would be VERY SURPRISED on how much the GX can get pushed around, or any truck with alot of exposed surface area. I used to drive a Trooper (talk about a sail on wheels) and several other 4x4s, and I found myself fighting the wheel on occasion to keep the vehicle in the direction I want. Btw, the wind is NOT ALWAYS constant but on occasion a good gust will catch your attention. The place where KDSS really shines is in its ability to keep the vehicle stable especially in cornering. Granted I am slowly working my way out of the break-in period, but there are some areas in town where the roads get curvey enough to notice the suspension. Another guy who owns KDSS akined his ride to a 745i bimmer...go figure.
The main reason why I got KDSS was for the additional safety it buys me. If you have ever taken a SUV into a emergency situation, then you will know how easily a high centered vehicle can flip or roll. Not a pretty sight, trust me! A news group did a nice review on vehicles with KDSS like systems such as XREAS on the 4-Runner. In their reviews, the vehicles with x-linked systems were LESS prone to roll over at high speed emergency manuevers than vehicles w/out. I also believe that in the future the IHS will start conducting high speed emergency tests on SUVS. It is already being implemented on the Land/Range Rover lines; the merits are real, and it will be a standard on vehicles in the future...fwiw.
Have a good day folks...
#21
shenard
I think the KDSS is worth the money. IMO
My last vehicle was a 2001 LX470. Nice truck, but it swayed too much for me when cornering. It was never unsafe, but a lot of the roads I travel in my daily commute are winding and that gets tiring with the sway. With the GX and KDSS, the sway is greatly reduced and makes the ride more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, with a vehicle this tall there is still some sway, but it is much more controlled and that is what you feel.
As far as vibration, maybe I am just not noticing it. My GX seems smoother than my '01LX. The LX had a vibration in the wheel that the dealership never could figure out. Also the high/low 4x4 shifter had the same vibrations when you put your hand on it just as the GX does. But I am not noticing the vibration issue that everyone is discussing. I guess I am lucky.
My last vehicle was a 2001 LX470. Nice truck, but it swayed too much for me when cornering. It was never unsafe, but a lot of the roads I travel in my daily commute are winding and that gets tiring with the sway. With the GX and KDSS, the sway is greatly reduced and makes the ride more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, with a vehicle this tall there is still some sway, but it is much more controlled and that is what you feel.
As far as vibration, maybe I am just not noticing it. My GX seems smoother than my '01LX. The LX had a vibration in the wheel that the dealership never could figure out. Also the high/low 4x4 shifter had the same vibrations when you put your hand on it just as the GX does. But I am not noticing the vibration issue that everyone is discussing. I guess I am lucky.
#22
Originally posted by EDGE2
Thai
completly forgot about the traction control but I thought it was more of a keep the wheels from spinning not transfer power to the wheels with more traction but thats probably how it works
Thai
completly forgot about the traction control but I thought it was more of a keep the wheels from spinning not transfer power to the wheels with more traction but thats probably how it works
I am not sure if what i wrote make sense...it's hard to convey it over the internet.
Last edited by tigmd99; 01-15-04 at 03:56 PM.
#23
Originally posted by brent0226
The owner's manual states that when you press the center differential lock button, VSC is disabled. That is stability control. Other than that, two concepts of traction control are being confused here... one being the electronic differential lock "traction control" (ie transfering power from left to right or right to left) and the more traditional traction control to prevent you from peeling out (reducing engine power). The latter, I believe, is turned off, but the electronic differential lock remains active.
The owner's manual states that when you press the center differential lock button, VSC is disabled. That is stability control. Other than that, two concepts of traction control are being confused here... one being the electronic differential lock "traction control" (ie transfering power from left to right or right to left) and the more traditional traction control to prevent you from peeling out (reducing engine power). The latter, I believe, is turned off, but the electronic differential lock remains active.
Last edited by tigmd99; 01-15-04 at 03:57 PM.
#25
Back to the Vibration on the highway issue. I'm going to try seeing if engaging the center differential on the highway makes a difference in the sound.
I also believe it is the torsen differential (In fact I might have been the first one to elude to that). If this is the case, engaging the center differential might in fact change the pitch, or tone of the vibration (might even eliminate it).
If this works, it obviously is not a fix because we cannot drive around with our center diffential's locked . However, maybe we can Lexus know where to look.
I also believe it is the torsen differential (In fact I might have been the first one to elude to that). If this is the case, engaging the center differential might in fact change the pitch, or tone of the vibration (might even eliminate it).
If this works, it obviously is not a fix because we cannot drive around with our center diffential's locked . However, maybe we can Lexus know where to look.
#27
My GX has about 20,000 miles on it now. The 'vibration ' in the steering wheel has been there since purchase. It 'is' a vibration which changes when I step off and on the accelerator. I suffer from Carpal Tunnel and after driving for a while on a long trip my hands and wrists start to tingle. Now that is a 'vibration'...and no...Lexus is not being kind to their customers...they should fix the dam thing.....This is my third Lexus and this model is beneath their capability to produce genuine products....
#28
Originally posted by looknow12
Back to the Vibration on the highway issue. I'm going to try seeing if engaging the center differential on the highway makes a difference in the sound.
I also believe it is the torsen differential (In fact I might have been the first one to elude to that). If this is the case, engaging the center differential might in fact change the pitch, or tone of the vibration (might even eliminate it).
If this works, it obviously is not a fix because we cannot drive around with our center diffential's locked . However, maybe we can Lexus know where to look.
Back to the Vibration on the highway issue. I'm going to try seeing if engaging the center differential on the highway makes a difference in the sound.
I also believe it is the torsen differential (In fact I might have been the first one to elude to that). If this is the case, engaging the center differential might in fact change the pitch, or tone of the vibration (might even eliminate it).
If this works, it obviously is not a fix because we cannot drive around with our center diffential's locked . However, maybe we can Lexus know where to look.
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