Altimeter Woes
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My altimeter continually shows either MINUS 200 feet or MINUS 400 feet. I have gone through, what I think, are the reset procedures but she always comes back to negative readings.
GX is 700 miles old...any suggestions or thoughts ??
GX is 700 miles old...any suggestions or thoughts ??
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Mine too. After noticing that the elevation of my house (~200 ft) fluctuated a couple hundred feet each day, I decided to test it. On my way up to Lake Tahoe (elevation ~8000 ft at the peak) a couple months ago, I synchronized the trucks reading with the elevation signs on the side of the highway. After a couple thousand feet, it was noticably off again as I passed more elevation signs. On the way back home a few days later, it was way off at all the markings, just like before I calibrated it. The only difference should be the air pressure due to a different weather system in the area. Which has led me to believe that Lexus is simply using the barometric pressure to calculate altitude! If this is true, why they didn't just use GPS, I don't know. Or maybe they are using GPS but went cheap on us and are using a very inaccurate version.
Oh well... I haven't used it since then and have tagged it as another useless feature, along with the temp (which will hopefully get fixed at my 5k).
Oh well... I haven't used it since then and have tagged it as another useless feature, along with the temp (which will hopefully get fixed at my 5k).
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Most common altimeter are based upon barometric pressure (i.e. READ relative air pressure). To verify this, wait for a day when a front is rolling in. You will see the pressure gauge drop as the front rolls in...this is exactly what happens to both my heart rate monitor (which tells altimeter) and the GX. If you have doubts, bring up a a contour map (they are online - google for it) of your area and see how off it maybe. On average, I have found mine to be 80 to 85% accurate (minus any large weather disturbances).
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But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
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My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
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Originally posted by Pokanoket
But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
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But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
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i would just ignore it if i were you, it'll just drive us all crazy! just put it on temperature mode to ignore it. besides, how many times would u use it anyway, even if you go to the mountains a lot, the altitude is on the side of the road!!!
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it does sound like your system maybe miscalibrated or malfunctioning. Is it possible you really are below sealevel that badly? Where I live, I am approx 600 ft above sealevel. Pull up a contour map and check to be certain.
it does sound like your system maybe miscalibrated or malfunctioning. Is it possible you really are below sealevel that badly? Where I live, I am approx 600 ft above sealevel. Pull up a contour map and check to be certain.
Originally posted by Pokanoket
But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
2004 Lexus GX 470
Blizzard Pearl on Ivory
Pimped with every available option except Lexux Link
But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
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Originally posted by Pokanoket
... My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. ...
... My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. ...
To test if the system is indeed using a pressure system, use tetra7's advise. Record the atmospheric pressure that the GX displays on one of the "modes", then set the altimeter to the correct value for your house. The next time you get in and the altimeter is off, record the new pressure and by how much the altitude is off. You should see a higher reading when the pressure drops and a lower reading when the pressure increases.
If it does work this way, simply calibrate it at a known location each day that you plan to use it.
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It's a barometric altimeter just like in airplanes. It will read a different altitude while it sits in your driveway as the atmospheric pressure changes. All you can do it set it to a known altitude and hope the pressure does not fluctuate too much. This isn't a problem while flying because including the barometric pressure reading is standard when making initial radio contact with local facilities.
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Originally posted by Pokanoket
But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
But Tetra7, let's review:
My altimeter still reads MINUS 200 feet and one minute later, will read MINUS 50 feet. She has never risen her head to sea level. South Louisiana is essentially sea level. As to air pressure, hmm, we would need a meteorologist answer this one because during the aforementioned one minute noted previously, no cold or warm front was encountered.
I hopefully will an explanation regarding this conundrum within the next week and will post the "Lexus response".
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The owners' manual says the barometric pressure is taken inside the car. In that case the air pressure will fluctuate depending on the speed of the car, position of the windows and sunroof, air conditioning fan speed and settings, the number of words per minute your wife is using, whether you had Mexican food for lunch....
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Originally posted by bobgore
The owners' manual says the barometric pressure is taken inside the car. In that case the air pressure will fluctuate depending on the speed of the car, position of the windows and sunroof, air conditioning fan speed and settings, the number of words per minute your wife is using, whether you had Mexican food for lunch....
The owners' manual says the barometric pressure is taken inside the car. In that case the air pressure will fluctuate depending on the speed of the car, position of the windows and sunroof, air conditioning fan speed and settings, the number of words per minute your wife is using, whether you had Mexican food for lunch....
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Not true. Bernouli's Principle. The faster air moves over an object, the lower the pressure...all things being equal. That's why cars have spoilers; to "spoil" the lift created by the pressure drop of the air passing over the top. However, in the case of a car, high pressure builds up at the bottom of the windshield. That's one of the reasons that the intake vents are there. When the air conditioner is on fresh, the pressure inside will be higher as opposed to when it is on recirculate. When you open a window inside pressure will fall. Now, I don't know if the effect is measurable with the Lexus barometer, but you might give it a try to open and close windows as you travel to see if it measures the fluctuation.
Since altitude measurement is inherent with GPS communication with three or more satellites, it is too bad Lexus doesn't take the information that the GPS is receiving and display it. That will give you altitude within feet regardless of the weather or any other factor.
Since altitude measurement is inherent with GPS communication with three or more satellites, it is too bad Lexus doesn't take the information that the GPS is receiving and display it. That will give you altitude within feet regardless of the weather or any other factor.
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